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[Larry]

Cure for cancer?

This is my first post, so I will give some background at the end of my question.

My wife has Colin Cancer and it has spread to the Peritoneal (sp?) lining of her abdomen. According to the Dr's there is little hope for her. The Dr's in Lexington Ky. Gave her 16 mo to 3 years but we have found a Dr. in NC that says that she would have a 15 to 35% chance of 5year servile with a new surgery that can only be done in North Carolina, Texas or Mina soda. A prerequisite for the surgery is that she undergo Cheom for at least 6 months. She has done one and one half months and she has had lots of trouble with nausea etc. but we are determined to do the chemo and the surgery.

My Question is, do any on you know of anything we can do to ease the nausea or possibly cure the cancer?

My wife is 35 and a stay at home, homeschooling, mother to our two daughters 7 and 3yo.

We are Bible Believing Christians and have not ruled out the fact that God could heal her, in fact we have high hopes that He has already done just that. We called for the elders of the church (a small, 20 member, Baptist Church) to anoint her with oil, and they confessed their faults and pored oil on her while praying for her and she felt what she described as a heat in her lower back and abdomen at the same time. On the day we got the bad news, we prayed and decided that what ever happens, we want God to get the glory out of it, if she dies, we want people to see the grace of God on her as she faces death and we want them to see the grace of God on me, as I go on and continue with the Lord and raise our girls to be God fearing women of virtue and wisdom, if she lives, we want God to receive the glory for that also.

I came to this board because, about three weeks ago, one of my wife's friends lent her a copy of Created to be his help meet and we ended up ordering a case of them! It's not that we had a bad mirage, we have had a very good mirage, it's just that we both seen areas where we had both fallen short, and were so refreshed reeding Train up a child and Created and we gleaned that the Perl's have some knowledge of natural medications, I felt that there may be some good advice for us or at least someone would help us pray.

I'm sorry this is such a long post and I will close with asking you all to pray for her... Specifically we need to get a good blood report tomorrow, that indicates that her immunity is back up. Of course pray that she be healed if it be Gods will and pray that God use all this to draw lost souls to Christ.
Thank you, Larry 

[Siege]

I do not know much about herbs and such, but I have found that peppermint tea and spearmint tea help nausea.

Also, I will be praying. CJ

[khix]

go to www.mercola.com

It's a site by a doctor who's into natural healing/treatments/etc 

Do a search on cancer & you'll pull up lots of info...you may need to put in your email address to see some/most of the articles, but it's well worth it...the newsletters you will get are very helpful & informative.

[SC lady]

http://potterswheelschool.blogspot.com/2007/11/ginger-root.html

Because it is helpful in the treatment of indigestion, motion sickness, muscle pain, nausea, and vomiting, Ginger Root has been a treatment for both morning sickness in pregnancy and patients undergoing chemotherapy.

Dear Brother, you and your family will be in our prayers. I'll let Duke know when he gets home from work, and we will pray together. If you haven't already, I'm sure you will be swamped with tons of information from well-meaning individuals.

God is your best Counselor and your best resource. He knows more about your wife's condition than any of us. Having placed you as her protector and provider, we trust that everything she needs will be placed within your hands.

I wasn't feeling well over the weekend. Duke offered to leave with the kids until I felt better. My response to him was, "No, I know you aren't a good nurse, but when I don't feel well, you're all I want." Made him smile 

[Larry]

Thank you all for your prayers and advice. I have been giving her ginger ail and peppermint extract sense last week and she has done better. I suppose that ginger root would be even better and we just happen to have wild peppermint growing around our pond..I'm not sure if I can find it this time of year.

SCLady, the web page you linked to said that ginger root is not recommended for people with gall stones, my wife(her name is Michelle by by the way) had her gall balder remover back in the summer, do you know if that matters? I suppose I should be asking the people on the Potters Wheel. 

[ps100vs5]

I'm sorry to hear you are going through this.  My mom had something similar.

I believe that colon cancer is related to yeast/fungus problems.  Here's a link to consider:
http://www.know-the-cause.com/Books/TheGermThatCausesCancerHandbook/tabid/93/Default.aspx

There are various doctors who specialize in treating fungus and yeast.  I would consider having a consultation with one.

[SC lady]

Thank you all for your prayers and advice. I have been giving her ginger ail and peppermint extract sense last week and she has done better. I suppose that ginger root would be even better and we just happen to have wild peppermint growing around our pond..I'm not sure if I can find it this time of year.

SCLady, the web page you linked to said that ginger root is not recommended for people with gall stones, my wife(her name is Michelle by by the way) had her gall balder remover back in the summer, do you know if that matters? I suppose I should be asking the people on the Potters Wheel. 

That link is to my personal blog. I've been posting my study of herbs along with some other items related to health and such. As your wife hasn't a gall bladder, she certainly doesn't have gall stones, so the caution would not apply to her.
As a treat, you may try some organic candied ginger. I've seen it sold in the local health food store. I'll see if I can find a link and/or recipe.

[healthyinOhio]

Sorry to hear of your wife's diagnosis.  Will pray. 
Here are some links on different cancer treatments from a health forum:
http://www.welltellme.com/discuss/index.php/topic,3630.0.html
http://www.welltellme.com/discuss/index.php/topic,7624.0.html
http://www.welltellme.com/discuss/index.php/topic,1692.0.html

One of the easiest treatments that your wife may want to look into is the consumption of H2o2.  (35% food grade hydrogen peroxide).  10 drops in a glass of water 3X a day on an empty stomach.  What this does is increases the oxygen level in the blood.  Disease cannot survive in high amounts of oxygen. 
You guys have a lot of research ahead of you.  But don't let it overwhelm you.  Good luck!

[SC lady]

Here is a recipe for Crystallized Ginger:
http://altmedicine.about.com/od/healthykitchenrecipes/r/crystallizedgin.htm
I recommend the variation that does not use sugar. For my family, I would choose stevia or xylitol.

[Larry]

Thanks,I have found that its always best to ask. I hope you don't mind me asking so many questions but I have been trying to learn if there is a correlation between body PH and Gall/Kidney Stones and cancer. Michelle began having pain and constipation in May and the Dr. first found Kidney Stones, we got that took care of and she was still having problems so back to the  Dr. in July when we found out that her gall balder was full of stones.

I know from maintaining my swimming pool that the PH of the pool can play a part in calcium deposits in the pool and based upon some reading I have done on the Internet seems to back up my theory.

PS: I will check out all the links you all have given me.

 PPS: I have read that Flax Seed Oil blended with Cottage Cheese or live (something or other) yogurt will cure cancer, because it enables oxygen to get to the cells via replacing the hydrogenated oil in the cell with Omega 3 fatties acids... so it could be that the peroxide would work also. I heard a guy on the radio once saying that you can treat pneumonia with the right kind of peroxide in an IV.

[cecac]

www.healthalert.com

This Dr. Bruce West has information on cancers.

Praying, and so sorry about this, hugs to your wife,
Cara

[amy3js]

I will be praying for you and your wife. I hope that you are able to find all the information you need. I have heard someone before refer to something called cessium (I'm sure I spelled that wrong) as being able to fight against cancer. I don't know anymore than that, I'm sorry.  But I thought since you were researching anyway, it might be something else to look into. It is a natural mineral I believe. maybe someone else know's something? I'll ask my husband too, he might remember.

Edit: I found this info from the source I heard about it from. The correct spelling is cesium.
#55 on the periodic table of elements.
it used to be found in our soil, but the land has been . now the food we eat doesnt contain it anymore.cesium changes the body's acidic/alkaline level.cancer thrives in an acidic environment.cesium raises the ph, creating an alkaline state...the cancer cannot survive...the cells die and are naturally eliminated by the body.it is sold as a supplement.

I would not just take this information and run with it, but it might be a good place to start. i know also that this element depletes your body of some other nutrient, so you have to take a second supplement with it. Hopefully you are able to find answers. 

Edit: Someone else just told me it is also known as essiac. not sure how true that is though.

[nexis777]

I was going to mention the info on PH, so I'm glad you (Larry) mentioned it, and that Amy had some info to pass along that might help in your research. I've definitely heard that changing your body's PH from acidic (which is what it tends toward in our environment... it's actually supposed to be about equal or slightly more alkaline, if I remember right) to being more highly alkaline for a time can kill the cancer. Cancer can not live in alkalinity. That's very interesting about your research with the kidney stones as well Larry. That adds a new piece to the puzzle that I hadn't thought of. I wonder if taking magnesium would help her with some of that as well. Magnesium helps the body to absorb calcium, as opposed to letting it build up in places such as the kidneys. I got kidney stones after my last pregnancy and recently started putting the pieces together of why that happened. I need to do more research on it, but it seems pregnancy affects our calcium levels, and because I wasn't uping my magnesium, my body was not absorbing it properly and I wound up with kidney stones. It's been a while since I first started puzzling this out, so now I can't remember all the details, but I think you're on to something and wanted to encourage you in that direction as well.
I'm sure we would all love to hear what you learn as well. Many prayers going up for your wife and you and your whole family. God be with you! I believe you have the respect of all here, in that you are doing so much to research what you can do to help your wife!
To God be the glory!

[HubbysCupofTea]

I am going to post this because I was amazed when I saw this report on the news a few months ago. I was amazed by it, albeit not all that surprised it could be true. I know cancer is very serious and I don't want to give the impression that there is an easy answer, but if this helps, then wonderful.

There was news story on a local man that was diagnosed with cancer. He had heard that breastmilk could "cure" it (I'm not a doctor here, just relaying what I heard on the story). He has been ordering breast milk from a breast milk bank (There are a few out there) and every day drinks breastmilk shakes. His cancer is now undetectable and he still drinks it. He swears by it. I was amazed by the story and was quite surprised it only got a little local press, but I remembered it and even thought about posting that info here. When I saw this thread, I felt compelled to post.

I don't know if that does any good or not, but it is something I know I would look into if ever faced with cancer in our family.

My prayers are with you and your wife.

[Larry]

Just a quick report. Michelle's white blood count is 22! Thats the highest it has ever been....Thank you Lord!

[joyofthelord]

Praise the Lord!

[Siege]

With all the talk about turning your body to alkaline...well, my friend is into this. Her site is:
http://www.goodnewswater.com
This Kangen water turns your body more alkaline. I am not sure I am sold on it, but she is, and it is worth a try to check it out, right?
CJ

[nexis777]

Praise God!!! Thanks for the praise report!!

[amy3js]

WooHoo! PTL! 

[Larry]

ok, this is what I have learned.

I did a lot of reading about Cesium therapy. It's heard to discern what the truth is, because everybody is selling something, but, I did find some telling information in an article that was very much against Cesium therapy. The article was from Sloan Ketring Cancer center and was linked to from the American Cancer Sociality,  the article described a test done in  1984 in which 50% of the people died in the first couple of weeks! I looked up the study http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?db=PubMed&cmd=Retrieve&list_uids=6522427&dopt=Citation and found that the test only included 50 terminal cancer patents , of the 50, 25 died....BUT apparently 25 lived! of the ones who died and were autopsied, non were found to have tumors. There are some ricks involved with this but also some possible rewards. We will keep that in mind but look for something more suited to our situation at this time.

One of the most creditable treatments I have found is the  Budwig Diet http://home.online.no/~dusan/diseases/cancer/cancer_dr_budwig.html we first learned of this from the son-in law of a woman who was cured of cancer using this method. one of the strongest things in it's favor, in my mind, is that I have found hardly any negative comments about it and there is no product to sell...it's just Flax seed oil and cottage cheese mixed in a blender...I bought a hand blender today.

Lastly, I am looking very closely at the Kangen Water aka. water ionization. Remember the Cesium therapy? this dose about the same thing, adjust the body PH, only not as aggressively as the Cesium. I will have to do some more study but it looks promising.

There are many other possibility for us to look into, like the breast milk, and I will get to them.


Thanks again to all of you for your prayers and suggestions.

Larry 

[HubbysCupofTea]

Here are a few articles of many on the breastmilk curing cancer issue:

http://discovermagazine.com/1999/jun/featcancer
http://www.impactlab.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=11793
http://www.sciencenews.org/articles/20061209/bob8.asp

If your wife wanted to try this route, I'm sure there are women in your church who would be glad to donate milk. I donated milk to a woman who adopted a son, along with a few other mothers, and when a few women are helping out, it is easy to get a ready supply.

[Larry]

Siege, Would you ask your friend if she would/could check the PH of her urine and the PH of the Kangen water after say on hour after she makes it?

I have been studying up on breast milk and I am very intrigued...Thank you all!

[Siege]

You mean, have it checked before taking the water, and then about an hour after taking the water? I am not sure if she has ph strips at all, also, she has been on it for awhile now (lost a LOT of weight and loks really good!) and is considered to have a ph of 7. I will see what my mil has done. She had a few ph strips, but they were kinda old.

OK, called mil. My friend has never tested her ph (which I did not think she had). My mil has. 1st time she was nuetral. 3 weeks after taking water, her urine was more acidic. However, mil is on loads of meds for BAD (crippling) rhuemetoid arthritist. She thinks she was detoxing then. She may test again today just so i can tell you what she is at. She has been on the water for about 6 weeks I think.

My friend is not at home I guess. I tried calling her yesterday for a question on herbs but she did not answer the phone then, and i tried just now and there is no answer. She and hubby plow in the, and snow is to come this weekend. They were suppossed to go to their families for Christmas, so mil and I thin maybe they went early so they could be back in time to plow.

I am not sold on this water yet. I cannot afford it, even if some people offer it free for 2 weeks. However, this friend is GIVING water away to EVERYONE! She and her husband believe it helps the body to do its job, so they are using the water as a ministry. I have only been getting the 2.5 ph water for brushing our teeth. It really helps with that. Maybe there is something to it. I will get back to you. If she gets home and says she would speak directly to you, I will PM her phone # to you. CJ

[Larry]

Thanks Seige, I had read on one Internet page that the ionized water did not maintain its PH, it sounds heard to believe but I have observed "PH bounce" in my swimming pool so I am wondering if your friend would test the PH of some water that has set around a while?  I would also be very interested to see if the PH of your mil's urine has changed, I would be glad to help her pay for the test strips.


Another question I have is: What would happen to human PH if they simply added backing soda as a suplament?

Michelle ordered Ginger Root, Peppermint, Spearmint and a couple  types of tee this morning, from the bulk herb store.

Thanks, Larry

[Siege]

OHHHH, i see. You need to use the water within 4 days of making it. It's ph stays the same for about 2 weeks, but there is this ionizing stuff (don't understand it) that they say if you want full benefits you need to use it within the 4 days. I brush my teeth with the 2.5, as I stated earlier, so I get it from her on Sundays and us it for a week or 2. I just tested some that I got from her on Sunday, and it is stil 2.5. My test kit is for my fish tanks, and is more accurate than that of the strips (chemicals...shake for so long, add so many dropes, etc, etc...)

The baking soda is a good question. I do not know much about ingesting it.

CJ

[Pennie]

I have no idea if this info would be of any use to you but.......growing up when my dad had indigestion he would drink baking soda water.  It's not like he took it every day but pretty often.  I am supposing that since it helped it was alkalizing his body.  Again, that may be totally useless info but thought I would "throw it out there."   

[Siege]

OK, I talked to my friend last night. She mentioned that she has 4 websites because there was too much infor for just the one. I have not checked them all out. I will today though.

http://www.goodnewswater.com
http://www.goodnewswater.net
http://www.goodnewswater.org
http://www.goodnewswater.info

She also has some other interesting stuff to say. Not sure that I bought it all, but most made sense. I will PM her e-mail to you Larry.

CJ

[littlemama24]

I have no idea if this info would be of any use to you but.......growing up when my dad had indigestion he would drink baking soda water.  It's not like he took it every day but pretty often.  I am supposing that since it helped it was alkalizing his body.  Again, that may be totally useless info but thought I would "throw it out there."   

Yup, you can drink sodium bicarbonate water (not sure the safest dosages) and it would help to neutralize acids in your body.  They do this to severly acidic patients on rescue squads  - just in pill form.  Sodium Bicarbonate (baking soda) is naturally found in our saliva - it is what protects our teeth from being eaten away by acids in foods and it neutralizes stomach acids when we swallow.  Just an FYI

[Larry]

Update, the ginger, peppermint tee is a hit! Michelle just finished another round of chemo and she is doing fine.
I added cinnamon to the tee today and she loved it. The chemo kills the fast growing cells in the body such as hair, the lining of the intestines and the mouth, so mouth sores and infections are a concern, the cinnamon should help with.

It turns out that an acquaintance of mine has been using a water ionizer for years and he is letting me have some to try. The ionizer has settings for the strength of the  watter and I got a gal. Of the lowest level and a gal of the higher strength. I am making tee with the lower power and I experimented on myself with the strong stuff....BOY, it cleaned me out! Your supposed to work your self up to the strong stuff but I wanted to see what would happen. Just a heads up for anyone looking at getting an ionizer, the guy that is loaning me the use of an ionizer is the owner of a CPA firm, he is very wealthy and a meticulous student of things related to his health (he is in his eighties and still going strong and looking young) He buys vacation homes on a whim but spends days studying health products before a purches...he uses a ionizer from Korea (I have the name written down but cant find it just now) it was less that $1000.

[cecac]

Would a probiotic be helpful to restore the intestines?

Also, have you looked into raw vegetable juices to help with rapid cell regeneration?

Just some thoughts,
Cara

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