Rightly dividing ~ color code ?

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« on: February 17, 2009, 03:15:31 PM »

I don't know if this is the right place for this but I wanted to be sure everyone got a look at this.

The other day I was reading Heb 4 and came up with an idea that I would like some input on.

It's a constant battle, for me, trying to keep things straight and I thought that it would be nice to get highlighter pens and color code the Bible with a color for Hebrew, Jew, Gentile etc. etc.

I would like to be able to wrap my mind around the concept and then teach my daughter.

My question:

What distinctions (for example Jew or gentile) are a must and what other distinctions (Law, Grace) would you consider to be a must....why??

I'm not asking you to do my work, I just want some thoughts.


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Re: Rightly dividing ~ color code ?

« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2009, 11:54:18 AM »

What about flesh vs. spirit?


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« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2009, 12:09:14 PM »

That should probably defiantly be on the list esposita.

I probably confused the issue by adding that that I was reading Heb 4 when I got the idea.

Let me explain further: my mind wants to read "Let us therefore fear..." as "Let us (as in Gentile Christians) therefore fear..." by default. That may or may not (I think not) be the ppl that were being addressed.

There may or may not be any doctrinal implications, depending on what you are reading, but it would be nice to train my mind to stop trying to read myself into every verse. And or, as esposits said, confusing the flesh and spirit.

Knowing that there are distinctions such a unbelieving Israelite, believing Israelite, etc. etc. that can have doctrinal implications (at least to my dispensational leaning mind), if miss read, I am wondering what others think about training the mind and if they see distinctions as being an issue.

Am I the only one that has this problem??


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« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2009, 09:53:24 AM »

Hey, this is awesome... evidently you read the Ephesians study by basething? In any case, please start such a work!

I will say this, however, Hebrews will be pretty much a one color book as regards Hebrews vs. Gentiles... however, you might do a "before" and "after" colorization... that demonstrates the differences between "Israel before Christ" and "Israel after Christ" as this is a very significant contrast in Hebrews.

If your interest is not in the book of Hebrews specifically, but in finding dichotomies between Hebrews and Gentiles (and how they are to exist together in the body of Christ) Galatians will be a very "colorful" book!

The flesh / spirit colorization would be a great one to do in Romans...

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« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2009, 11:33:08 AM »

Regarding the Song of Solomon, we used something similar to that described here:
http://www.bible.org/page.php?page_id=1634 (Donald E. Curtis)

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To this end, I have actually copied the book into a word processor and color coded the text and made other changes to the fonts. In this, my private version, I made the bride’s words pink, the bridegroom’s words blue, and all others black. When I guessed that the bride was thinking rather than speaking, I used pink italics. The effect was quite dramatic.226 One advantage of having the text in a word processor and using colors to identify the speakers is immediacy. There is no looking back to the heading or over to the margins to reconnect with the speaker.

I also found another color code that added green highlights for members of the chorus.

We use this method with our sons studying Scripture to identify various pronouns (who the words 'he,' 'they,' etc. are referring to). Sometimes we highlight with colors. Sometimes we underline. My boys enjoy drawing symbols around words like drawing a fish around the words referring to Jonah, etc. For our use, we have found that simple, easy-to-remember markings are best and promote clarity.

We also would like to see the results of your work, Larry.


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« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2009, 10:43:21 PM »

I hadn't found the study by Basething, (I just found it and downloaded it, thanks). Basething did say something about the simple rules of the English language, in one of his post that resonated and Rebeca said something about haw her dad taught her that also inspired me.

Oddly enough, I hadn't considered doing it on a computer, SC Lady, but that would probably work.....probably keep me from marking something and then discovering that I used the wrong color Shocked


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« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2009, 07:48:33 AM »

Larry

this is a great idea! Especially as a teaching tool!

i was in my mid twenties when i learned to read. Well---- i was taught ciphering (decoding suposed hidden messages/ “reading” between the lines/ adding to the text/ finding hidden meanings/ and determining what it all “meant to me”)in grammar school. But i did not learn to read ie. comprehend only what was presented by the author in the text, until i was older. i was, in a round-about-way, taught by a man who seemingly didn't learn until he was in his fifties. So for you to seek to teach your daughter what it seems you are presenting here, while she is yet in your house is truly refreshing .

As too your question i think that all distinctions are must/s. My thoughts are that man is to live by “every word” that proceeds out of the mouth of God. Implicit in the concept is “understanding”, and foreign to it is “confusion”.

Therefore, every thing that God has said to or of mankind is to be lived/believed by all mankind (bond or free, rich or poor etc: [Israelites: both Jew and Greek, those in Israel and those scattered among the nations etc]; [Gentiles: cultured or barbarian etc].

This includes the idea that when God establishes distinctions then those distinctions are to be lived/believed by all. i.e when God separates Israel and speaks to them specifically, requiring specific things of them which are not required of all mankind, then the application to Israel is that Israel is to understand the requirement and separation, hearken to what God said concerning it, and thereby walk in belief/obedience (Biblical definition) living it.
As applicable to non-Israel the distinction is to be 1. observed by all mankind, 2. understood to be specific to Israel, 3. looked on as exposing the character and ways of God and His purposes, 4. lived/believed (Biblical definition). In other words Israel is to be dealt with by all mankind as if the distinction/separation is/was absolute. And 5. if not in contradiction to (a.) other principles in scripture (such as circumcision) or (b.) context etc, then it should(ImO) if relevant, be considered as exposing the righteousness of God (both severity and mercy).
Visa-versa if God distinguishes the Gentile (say as members of the Body of Christ) then those distinctions are to be lived/believed by all. In other words, a Messianic is to believe the distinction and not attempt to persuade a Gentile to be circumcised or to keep the Law of Moses to be saved or accepted for fellowship. Conversely a Gentile is to live/ believe the distinction , maintain his place in order, (and definitely not attempt to convince a Messianic to eat pork so as to maintain fellowship etc).

All distinctions i have found or understood to this point are musts in understanding God, faith/belief, headship, order, sin, righteousness, etc.

the concept that “whatsoever is not of faith is sin” is a concept applicable to all. Conversely the idea that “sin is the transgression of the Law” is in its context seemingly solely directed to Israel.

However, as concerns righteousness the Law exposes a general understanding of sin (note all references in the Law to the abominations/sins etc. of Egypt and Canaan,...). This means that even though the concept “sin is the transgression of the Law” is not applicable to non-Israel, the Law does define abomination/sin for non-Israel, in all cases not specifically regarding the separation of Israel.

This is by no means comprehensive and possibly not comprehendable as presented, but hopefully will give insight into my thoughts on the subject.

God bless your endeavor,

john


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« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2009, 09:19:12 PM »

ok question.....

I'm doing a flesh/spirit colorization. (inspired by this post. Thanks!) But I'm wondering if their is a case for a third category. The mind?

For example, "And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge..." Was this a desire of the flesh, or of the spirit...or neither? Huh

I'm guessing its all probably part of the flesh.

Any thoughts?

Update: i just found a site ( http://www.kjvbible.org/body.html) which pointed out the "self" is split into three - soul, flesh/body, and spirit. Using these classifications, I guess the above example would come under soul. Still not sure about this though.


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« Reply #8 on: April 20, 2009, 03:53:36 PM »

Quote from: Genevieve Joy on April 19, 2009, 09:19:12 PM

When "colorizing" the Bible, use the Bible's definitions. To do a spirit / flesh colorization:

1) first choose a book... it looks like you have chosen Romans... you can later go to other books, but there are sometimes slight differences in the way terms are used from author to author.
2) Then do a quick word search: for instance, search the book of Romans for the word "spirit." For example, go to http://www.blueletterbible.com, then under, "Search the Bible" on the right, type, "spirit" then click on, "range options" and type "Rom" in that box... then press enter. I got 22 verses... your should too.
3) Study the verses you get in the search. Some will not give you that much understanding (like the first verse in the list, Rom 1:4... its not that helpful to understand what is the difference between the spirit and the flesh... maybe we can come back to this verse later.)
4) Once you have begun to see the passages that give you a good idea of how to live by the spirit... choose a color and start highlighting. Remember that you will probably make mistakes... so either use a cheap Bible, or do your highlighting in a word processor. Many times there will be a whole long text on the nature of living by the spirit with no reference at all to the word "spirit"... you have to find these passages by just reading and studying.
5) Finally, after doing this in English, look to see what each of the usages of the word, "spirit" comes from in the Greek... maybe do a word search of the Greek work to help you turn up other passages that might be germane. Maybe I can do a screen-cast on this... edit to add: hehehe,I did a small screen-cast... I meant to mute the background, but figure that most of you might actually appreciate it... lol (if it gets too annoying, you can mute it... I don't talk in the screencast): http://www.screencast.com/t/H6yZnmrowc

*Remember to stay in one book at first... then branch out.
*Remember to let the text say what the text wants to say.
*Remember to pray, seek good teaching, and to be willing to believe whatever the word of God says.

--gabe


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« Reply #9 on: April 20, 2009, 07:15:35 PM »

oh wow. thanks for all that info, I appreciate it

p.s. I just watched the screencast. your kids sound cute. Cheesy


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« Reply #10 on: April 20, 2009, 10:03:30 PM »

I forgot to add that when you have studied the terms you are looking to define, you can go back to passages like the one you mentioned and much more easily determine if the passage is about the flesh, the spirit... or something else. Do the spirit / flesh study first though.

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