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[Monita]

Hey ya'll this is a totaly wierd thing to bring up I guess but I'm curious.

I watched a program on the History channel the other day which highlighted all of the end of world prophecies that other cicilizations have had.  They were all so simmilar....like crazy simmilar. 
I have been wondering why they are so so simmialr.  Does anyone have any knowledge on the end times prophecies of these different civilizations?
I guess I would like to know what your thoughts are about these.  Who spoke these similar prophesies to them from complete different parts of the world?  Why do they seem to imply ufo's and alien type beings?  I have never been one to get into ufo's and a;iens but their where portions on the prophecies and writings of these ancient civilizations that seemed to speak of things like this.

So, I was just curious as to what thoughts anyone may have about these.  It seems someone spoke these to them....but who is the question. 

Blessings

[Joyfulmomto9]

I am curious-  can you explain what they were? 

[veggie]

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I'm curious about this also.  And also wondering why the year 2012 is so significant in many of these prophecies.  I know for many it's based on the Mayan calendar, but I'm wondering how or why some Christians feel the year 2012 is of special importance and what that belief is based on.

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[jchthys]

For what it’s worth, I’ve read this answer, which says that we Christians should not place importance on such prophecies.

[ridgerunner]

This is a completely anecdotal, personal, and unreferenced opinion of my own, but I believe that the similarities are significant.  I believe that God has revealed himself in many ways to many different races.  I believe that cultural differences cause these revelations of God to be interpreted somewhat differently, but the obvious similarities make me think that the important parts are preserved. 

For what it's worth.  Totally just my opinion.

[Deb]

I am part Cherokee and their creation stories do seem very similar. I have read the hopi and others and they too are close. I think it is because all those stories about the beginning and even the end were passed from Noah, his wife, their three sons and their wives to their children and on down.So the beginning of all the different cultures and their legends was the same. Just my thoughts.

[Cherika Four Seasons]

I am part Cherokee and their creation stories do seem very similar. I have read the hopi and others and they too are close. I think it is because all those stories about the beginning and even the end were passed from Noah, his wife, their three sons and their wives to their children and on down.So the beginning of all the different cultures and their legends was the same. Just my thoughts.

I think so too. Many Aboriginal tribes have flood stories which are similar to the account in genesis. Prophecies are a different story though.

[Gabriel Anast]

I think that most christians assume that the ones that made the Mayan calendar, the Hopi prophesies, the Incan prophesies, etc were not believers in God. Maybe they were, maybe they weren't... the funny thing is that in most cases, the stories of the ones that gave the prophesies are preserved. But... we don't really read anymore. Just watch the TV, then let the preacher tell us which shows are good and which are bad.

The other possibility which is almost always thrown out is the idea that simply observing the created order of God could tell us something about the future... like, maybe following some star to find the Messiah of all men. Of course this would presume some amount of observation of created order... and probably a lot of research and study... and, who would do that?

Certainly not some old Mayan, or Hopi or Incan... I mean... its just unthinkable.

--gabe

[smfmommy]

I like your train of thought Gabe.  Because of evolutionist thinking we always assume that those BC people must have been pretty stupid.  When in reality their mathematical genius makes our calculator dependent generation look like neanderthals. 

Although I really do think that those who sacrificed humans (like the Mayans) were thereby connected to the demon world and may have received prophecies of Satan.  Wouldn't Satan just love to put the Bible in question during these end times by having those pagan prophecies come true in some way while we are still scratching our heads about Revelation.

Then again God did put the stars in the skies for signs and seasons.  Just because the world uses it in a contrary way to scripture doesn't mean the underlying premise isn't valid.

 

[Gabriel Anast]

Although I really do think that those who sacrificed humans (like the Mayans) were thereby connected to the demon world and may have received prophecies of Satan.

Again... I will, um..., plead with you to turn off the assumption engine. Someone looking back at you or your husband could say, "Anyone who would sacrifice a million children a year must be controlled by the devil... etc, etc." Please... I am not messing with you... do your own research. The truth is available... just not on TV.

Wouldn't Satan just love to put the Bible in question during these end times by having those pagan prophecies come true in some way while we are still scratching our heads about Revelation.

What he would love, IMO, and what Christ prophesied is that when these things (Revelation, etc) begin to be fulfilled, "...the love of many will wax cold..." who might these be whose love waxes cold?

Rev 2:2           I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars: And hast borne, and hast patience, and for my name's sake hast laboured, and hast not fainted. Nevertheless I have [somewhat] against thee, because thou hast left thy first love.

I don't know about you, but this sounds like the cream of the crop of church-going folk.

Why might their love wax cold?

Because they are "offended" in the teachings of Christ: see this list.

What might be a sign of their "offendedness?" That they are still "scratching their heads" (read: unwilling to abide the plain meaning) as regards the teachings of the Bible and its prophecies... including Revelation.

Then again God did put the stars in the skies for signs and seasons.  Just because the world uses it in a contrary way to scripture doesn't mean the underlying premise isn't valid.

So, you are telling me that your observational understanding of the underlying premise of the times and seasons conflicts with the Mayan in some way? I have to be honest, I would LOVE to hear about your understanding of the times and seasons... there are precious few theories from strict observation out there... the Mayan seeming to be one of maybe a handful of observational theories (Chaldean / Hebrew, Egyptian, Chinese, maybe northern European / Celtic).

--gabe

[Gabriel Anast]

Oh, I forgot those amazing prophesies given to Pharaoh, Nebuchadnezzar and the people of Nineveh. God loves all people and desires that they all come to Him. He did, I agree, give His explicit knowledge through the Hebrews. But that is the part of the Bible most christians ignore. Its complicated, evidently.

--gabe

[smfmommy]

Again... I will, um..., plead with you to turn off the assumption engine. Someone looking back at you or your husband could say, "Anyone who would sacrifice a million children a year must be controlled by the devil... etc, etc." Please... I am not messing with you... do your own research. The truth is available... just not on TV.

OK I see your point.  Actually I was thinking of the priests themselves not the culture in general but that is still an assumption based on my limited study of history (which is based on - probably flawed - history books not Hollywood) so I will drop that argument until I can research more.

So, you are telling me that your observational understanding of the underlying premise of the times and seasons conflicts with the Mayan in some way? I have to be honest, I would LOVE to hear about your understanding of the times and seasons... there are precious few theories from strict observation out there... the Mayan seeming to be one of maybe a handful of observational theories (Chaldean / Hebrew, Egyptian, Chinese, maybe northern European / Celtic).

You totally misread me here.  I was meaning that just because new agers use the stars to try and predict the future of their lives (which I believe the Bible is forbidding in Deut 18:10-12) doesn't mean that those same stars cant' be used to see the sign of the times.  I am certainly not trying to dismiss the observational views of ancient cultures or claim any understanding of the current times.  I was just trying to say that I can't dismiss knowledge from the stars just because I don't believe in horoscopes.  Does that clarify?

 

[Gabriel Anast]

Yeah... cool...

...research more...

Now we are on the same team... 

--gabe

[BJ_BOBBI_JO]

So, I was just curious as to what thoughts anyone may have about these.  It seems someone spoke these to them....but who is the question. 

I remember several years ago on here there was a thread on here about how the Cherokee had floored the whites when they 1st met and learned eachothers language enough to communicate with eachother about it. The Cherokee said that many many years before that Jesus had come to them and taught them many things. (they refered to Him with another name. The modern day Cherokee name for Jesus sounds something like  Chee-sa) The Cherokee knew about Noah's flood and other stories of the old testiment. That fact and the way many of the Cherokee customs were Jewish like was confusing to the whites who came and studied the Cherokee. I would link a Cherokee history site that talks about this but it changed and I dont know where its at anymore. It used to read itself outloud to the site viewer.

John 21:25 "And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written. Amen."

So I spect Jesus may have went all over the world. He certainly had the power to do it and the love of people to do it.

I am recently been hearing more about the Hopi prophisies. My interrest is renewed in the Hopi because recent geaneology research says my Cherokee great grandma may have had  Hopi grandparents or a Hopi parent.

I dont understand why so many groups have claimed that 2012 is 'the year' but I know the Cherokee calender ends in the year 2012. December 21, 2012 I think. I think it is refered to as the 'year of rebirth or reborn". Something like that.

Im not to worried about it 2012 may come and go without nothing major or maybe it wont. I dunno. But I do know that my eternal home is heaven and if something is going to happen here on earth in 2012 or any other time then my soul is high tailing it to heaven. WoooHooo cant help but to get excited over that! Gotta love HEAVEN.

[Cherika Four Seasons]

An interesting example of accurate prophecies by people who worshipped false gods-  comes from Tahiti. Around the early 1700's, the cult of Oro - a god who required many human sacrifices- was being spread to many islands in the pacific. Following some conflict, one of their priests - Vaita - made the following prophecy;

the glorious offspring off Te Tumu will come and see this forest at Taputapuatea. Their body is different, our body is different. We are one species only from Te Tumu. And this land will be taken by them. The old rules will be destroyed. And sacred birds of the land and the sea will also arrive here, will come and lament over that which this lopped tree has to reach. They are coming up on a canoe without an outrigger.

Shortly after this, in 1767, the very first European ship to reach Tahiti, the Dolphin captained by Wallis, arrived, which they took as fulfillment of the prophecy. A few years later, I think, Cook came along in the Endeavour, set up a fort, and left some of their birds and other species there for the Tahitans.  So it seems, Vaita's prophecy was accurate.  Yet I think its safe to assume he wasn't a believer in the one true God.

Of course, all this relies on Vaita's prophecy having been told honestly by the Tahitans and recorded accurately by the Europeans . Which we don't know for sure that it was 

But let's just say that all this was right --- who told vaita what was going to happen? Did God communicate with him even though Vaita was not a believer (well, God communicated with Paul BEFORE he was a believer, didn't He?), or was it perhaps a demon who spoke through vaita, for who-know-what purposes?

I know its all just speculation.....

ETA: I just re-read the account of all this in "Voyaging with Cook" and Summers describes Vaita as giving the prophecy in a trance-like state. That sounds kinda demonic to me!  But, that is just her words. 

[ForeverGirl]

Cool thread. :-)

I researched the Incas a long time ago and wrote an article (which I can't find now) about the creator god Veracocha:

"Legends of the Aymara Indians say that the Creator God Viracocha rose from Lake Titicaca during the time of darkness to bring forth light. Viracocha was a storm god and a sun god who was represented as wearing the sun for a crown, with thunderbolts in his hands, and tears descending from his eyes as rain. He wandered the earth disguised as a beggar and wept when he saw the plight of the creatures he had created. Viracocha made the earth, the stars, the sky and mankind, but his first creation displeased him, so he destroyed it with a flood and made a new, better one, taking to his wanderings as a beggar, teaching his new creations the basics of civilization, as well as working numerous miracles. Viracocha eventually disappeared across the Pacific Ocean (by walking on the water), and never returned. It was thought that Viracocha would re-appear in times of trouble."
http://www.reference.com/browse/wiki/Viracocha

The most interesting story though is the one bout the 9th Inca ruler, Yupanqui, who later was renamed Pachacuti (a word synonomous with destruction/tribulation. "Una Pachacuti" is the word used to refer to the flood which destroyed the earth.)

I read a book which was a translation of the writings of one of the Spaniards who first invaded the area. Garcilaso de la Vega, http://www.answers.com/topic/inca-garcilaso-de-la-vega
Most modern historians disagree with this author's perspective of the Incas. However, his mother was an Inca princess, and he spoke the language fluently. I am inclined to believe him.

The story goes that Yupanqui was not the preferred son of his father, who was the 9th Incan. Yupanqui was sent away to be a sheep herder. One day as he was out with the sheep he saw a man appear before him who had a beard, and wore a white robe. In his hand was a book. The man told Yupanqui that he was the Creator and the most supreme God of all. That he had even created the sun, which the Incans had been worshiping as the supreme deity.

The story goes that this Shepherd God (which Yupanqui called Veracocha... see story above) told Yupanqui many things about governance and righteousness. He was told that he would become the next Incan. He was told to go out to battle against their enemies and that he would win.

When he went out to battle (without his father's aid) it is said that the stones around him stood up as soldiers and fought for him. He killed his enemies and instated himself as the next Inca and renamed Pachacuti.

Pachacuti went on to conquer huge areas of Peru, and made the Incas the absolute rulers of the land. He instructed the people not to worship the sun, but rather the creator of the sun, and had a temple built for Veracocha, the creator of the sun. He abolished human sacrifice. He took his army into tribes that had become homose*ual, and killed everyone there, making this sin punishable by death.

Pachacuti wrote many poems and hymns. Here is one of them:

O Creator, root of all,
   Wiracocha, end of all,
   Lord in shining garments
   who infuses life
   and sets all things in order,
   saying,
   "Let there be man!
   Let there be woman!"
   Molder, maker,
   to all things you have given life:
   watch over them,
   keep them living prosperously,
   fortunately,
   in safety and peace.
   Where are you?
   Outside? Inside?
   Above this world in the clouds?
   Below this world in the shades?
   Hear me! Answer me!
   Take my words to your heart!
   For ages without end
   let me live,
   grasp me in your arms,
   hold me in your hands,
   receive this offering
   wherever you are, my Lord,
   my Wiracocha.


When Pachacuti died worship of the sun was reinstated and the old practices revived. The Inca empire rose to greatness under his reign, and then quickly declined and was completely destroyed, all within the space of about 150 years. 

In some histories Inca Pachacuti is reviled as violent and power hungry. In others he is glossed over as just another Inca. Some will note his great ability to rule, his extremely effective methods of irrigation and farming, or his ability to conquer a people group and then absorb them into his empire, making them into loyal subjects.
 
I have never found the above story as it is on the web though...

Maybe that old document I read (which many modern authors cite) was erred. But maybe it's just another history that humankind wants to reject.

But it is an interesting story anyway.

The Q'ero (Long-haired ones), the last of the Incas, recently revealed their prophecies of the End of Time to Alberto Villoldo, who has published them.

We are awaiting the next Pachacuti (He Who Transforms the Earth), and then it to be the end of the world as we know it. The signs of upheaval have begun, and will last four years. A new humanity will emerge from the chaos. The prophecies announce the beginning of a new “millenium of gold,” and speak of “a rip in the fabric of time,” through which will come a luminous being. The signs of the times include: the drying-up of high mountain cochas (lagoons), the near-extinction of the condor, and great solar heat. After wards, we shall emerge into the fifth Sun.

http://www.alternativeapproaches.com/magick/sap/sap3.htm

Beka

[khix]

This is a very interesting thread! 

I think ancient stories about creation and about the future are similar because it's like that telephone game....I think that's what it's called...remember whispering into someone's ear a phrase, and they whisper into someone else's ear, and so on & so on, and it goes around the room, and by the time the last person hears the phrase & repeats it, it's not the same exact phrase, but it is similar. 

Same thing with how legends get passed down.

It all started with one family knowing the truth and passing it down....but as time passed, the stories got skewed (for whatever reason), but yet they are eerily similar.

I like your train of thought Gabe.  Because of evolutionist thinking we always assume that those BC people must have been pretty stupid.  When in reality their mathematical genius makes our calculator dependent generation look like neanderthals. 

Exactly!  The pyramids are another example...."experts" think that there is just no way that those ancient people were smart enough to know how to build them & where to build them.  "Experts" think that modern day man is so much smarter than ancient man, and our proof is all our "technology"....well, whose to say that they didn't have advanced technology back then?  But, nooooooo, the only "logical" explanation these experts can come up with, is that they must have had help from aliens!  I actually think that closer to the beginning of creation, that people were smarter...waaaaay smarter...than we are now.  Creation is winding down...with each new generation, dna information is lost.  This could result in loss of brain cells too!  Also, modern man has been dumbed down, due to environmental toxicity (e.g, mercury, fluoride, and countless numbers of people taking all sorts of pills), the "couch potato syndrome", the "rely on me (government/preacher) for information & help, and don't bother to think for yourself".   (There's also the possibility of fallen angels giving ancient mankind information that they weren't supposed to know, and helping mankind do things that weren't supposed to do, but that's another topic/theory & plus, I don't know too much about it....I've only heard about it...it's based on what's written in The Book of Enoch...which opens a whole other can of worms!)

And also wondering why the year 2012 is so significant in many of these prophecies.  I know for many it's based on the Mayan calendar, but I'm wondering how or why some Christians feel the year 2012 is of special importance and what that belief is based on.

This is how someone explained it to me - it has something to do with something in Daniel....it talks about a certain number of weeks...and there's one part that talks about 7 weeks, I think, which is 49 years, and if you add 49 to 1967 (June 5, 1967 - it's when Jerusalem won the 6-day war), you get 2016 (June 2016?), which could be the end of the trib, and if the trib is 7 years long, midpoint (3-1/2 years) would be around December 2012.  (But, that means the trib would have to have already started....in June.  So...   Has the trib already started?!?!?)

If it's correct or significant - I have no idea!  I just mentioned it because I think that's why some think 2012 is important from a Christian perspective.

[ForeverGirl]

LOL, the Inca side-real lunar calendar year starts in June day 5/6  8/9if I remember correctly...

http://www.crystalinks.com/calendarinca.html

In one account, it is said that the Inca god Viracocha established a year of 12 months, each beginning with the New Moon, and that his successor, Pachacuti, finding confusion in regard to the year, built the sun towers in order to keep a check on the calendar. Since Pachacuti reigned less than a century before the conquest, it may be that the contradictions and the meagreness of information on the Inca calendar are due to the fact that the system was still in the process of being revised when the Spaniards first arrived.

Despite the uncertainties, further research has made it clear that at least at Cuzco, the capital city of the Inca, there was an official calendar of the sidereal-lunar type, based on the sidereal month of 27 1/3 days. It consisted of 328 nights (12 27 1/3) and began on June 8/9, coinciding with the heliacal rising (the rising just after sunset) of the Pleiades; it ended on the first Full Moon after the June solstice (the winter solstice for the Southern Hemisphere).

This sidereal-lunar calendar fell short of the solar year by 37 days, which consequently were intercalated. This intercalation, and thus the place of the sidereal-lunar within the solar year, was fixed by following the cycle of the Sun as it "strengthened" to summer (December) solstice and "weakened" afterward, and by noting a similar cycle in the visibility of the Pleiades.

[ForeverGirl]

Other dates that are interesting in coincidence with these prophecies are:

One 70 year generation from May 1948 (Israel budded as a nation) is May, 2018.

May 2018 less 7 years is May, 2011.

1611 + 400 years = 2011. (the word of God in the English language.)

[seekingtruth]

Exactly!  The pyramids are another example...."experts" think that there is just no way that those ancient people were smart enough to know how to build them & where to build them.  "Experts" think that modern day man is so much smarter than ancient man, and our proof is all our "technology"....well, whose to say that they didn't have advanced technology back then?  But, nooooooo, the only "logical" explanation these experts can come up with, is that they must have had help from aliens!  I actually think that closer to the beginning of creation, that people were smarter...waaaaay smarter...than we are now.  Creation is winding down...with each new generation, dna information is lost.  This could result in loss of brain cells too!  Also, modern man has been dumbed down, due to environmental toxicity (e.g, mercury, fluoride, and countless numbers of people taking all sorts of pills), the "couch potato syndrome", the "rely on me (government/preacher) for information & help, and don't bother to think for yourself".   (There's also the possibility of fallen angels giving ancient mankind information that they weren't supposed to know, and helping mankind do things that weren't supposed to do, but that's another topic/theory & plus, I don't know too much about it....I've only heard about it...it's based on what's written in The Book of Enoch...which opens a whole other can of worms!)

My DH and I were just talking about this the other night.  I read a book last year- The puzzle of Ancient Man found here- http://www.answersingenesis.org/PublicStore/product/Puzzle-of-Ancient-Man-The,4476,224.aspx

It talks about the covering up of a huge amount of archealogical evidence that supports the ideas of intelligent humans.  This  evidence has been destroyed, hidden, or ignored because it does not support their modern humanistic theologies.  It is actually very interesting to learn about all the things they came up with without "modern technology".

A very fascinating subject.

[khix]

My DH and I were just talking about this the other night.  I read a book last year- The puzzle of Ancient Man found here- http://www.answersingenesis.org/PublicStore/product/Puzzle-of-Ancient-Man-The,4476,224.aspx

It talks about the covering up of a huge amount of archealogical evidence that supports the ideas of intelligent humans.  This  evidence has been destroyed, hidden, or ignored because it does not support their modern humanistic theologies.  It is actually very interesting to learn about all the things they came up with without "modern technology".

A very fascinating subject.

Yep!  The ONLY reason why "experts" continue to assert/assume that ancient man was primitive & dumb, is because it helps to "prove" their evolutionary theories.

I'd like to read that book one of these days!  It sounds interesting!

[veggie]

I love this thread!  It is fascinating to me and covers so many questions/wonderings that I've been having lately.  So for the sake of discussion here is a question I had as I've been reading through this thread.  Should the Bible be our only source of information?  If the Bible is the one and only Truth, then are prophecies from other beliefs anything to consider? 
Also, is it possible that Satan has "inspired" any of these prophecies?  When I was little I used to think that evil was easily recognizable -- that it was overtly, well, EVIL.  But it is my belief now that Satan, the master deceiver, would package something awfully pretty -- maybe even 99% truth with that 1% of error in order to trick someone.
So again, for the sake of discussion, should Jesus followers who are Bible believers  give any weight or validity to prophecies from other faiths?  If yes, then what would be the reasons for examining what prophecies from other religions have to say?
Just FYI, I don't know the anwer to my own questions!   

[ridgerunner]

Should the Bible be our only source of information?

IMO, yes.

If the Bible is the one and only Truth, then are prophecies from other beliefs anything to consider?

If the prophecies from other cultures directly coincide with the Bible, then yes, I think they are something to consider.  Like the Inca stories that Beka related above. 

Also, is it possible that Satan has "inspired" any of these prophecies?  When I was little I used to think that evil was easily recognizable -- that it was overtly, well, EVIL.  But it is my belief now that Satan, the master deceiver, would package something awfully pretty -- maybe even 99% truth with that 1% of error in order to trick someone.

I don't think Satan would inspire something that would cause people to understand the Bible better and believe on Jesus.  The prophecies and 'stories' of God from other cultures that perfectly coincide with the Bible have resulted in people believing on Jesus when they might not have otherwise.  IMO, the ones that are deceitful are pretty easy to recognize - like the Quran and Islam's small similarities that are imbedded within a structure of hate.

Again, just my opinion - I've been wrong before and could be again... but I don't think I am

(Beka - thanks for linking the info about The Quero, one of my best friends is from Peru and we LOVE to read about The Quero.)

[veggie]

Thanks ridgerunner!  I am "digesting" it all!   

[Deb]

We only use about 10% of the brain ,I think. Albert Einstein used 15% or 20%. God didn't make our brain for us to grow into with knowledge because He knew with each generation there would be a loss. There always is with replication of anything. I think Adam used ALL his brain. Could you imagine how much of a genius he was! It would have been like a computer.

[cjanderin]

The "we only use 10% of our brain" thing is a myth.  A long-repeated statement that has become considered fact.  Kind of like "You can see the Great Wall of China from the moon".  Not true.  Google it and see.

[AndysDad]

The story goes that Yupanqui was not the preferred son of his father, who was the 9th Incan. Yupanqui was sent away to be a sheep herder. One day as he was out with the sheep he saw a man appear before him who had a beard, and wore a white robe. In his hand was a book. The man told Yupanqui that he was the Creator and the most supreme God of all. That he had even created the sun, which the Incans had been worshiping as the supreme deity.

The Mormons make a lot of this. They've managed to tie in most of Inca legend to accounts in the Book of Mormon, happily skipping over all the inconsistencies. A few decades ago it was the Aztecs, but somehow they didn't hold on to their place in Scripture that the Incas presently hold. Next stop: Easter Island.

Andy's Dad

[Deb]

It may be a myth but the source I read it from was a scientific book on Albert Einstein. It was proven that he used about 5% more of his brain than normal people do and it said that He used about 20% of his brain. I wish I could remember the name of the book---It was something like EISTEIN"S BRAIN----I'll try to locate the title. I don't know about the moon and the great wall, but you can see it from space---the space shuttle has sent back pictures of it.  I'm not arguing cause I definetely ain't no genius!!!! I do believe what we don't use we lose, I think kids today with a lot of electronics who you would think are smarter aren't. They have lost a lot of ability to reason---school graduation tests from the 1800's would stump almost ANY high school graduate now, simply because of all the mental math problems and memorization involved. I saw one of those tests not long ago and was amazed at what isn't taught anymore by the "advanced" public schools. And with calculaters and the computer to "give" the answers for them(us) I think we are losing thought capacity. IMO But, I also saw an article that said hat sizes are continually getting bigger, they were saying the brain is getting bigger? Maybe they are just swollen from all the scientists that think they are so smart LOL!

[Sweet E]

Great topic...

The prophecies and 'stories' of God from other cultures that perfectly coincide with the Bible have resulted in people believing on Jesus when they might not have otherwise. 

This quote reminded me of a book on this very topic... Eternity in Their Hearts: Startling Evidence of Belief in the One True God in Hundreds of Cultures Throughout the World, by Don Richardson.

Amazon's review...

"Has the God who prepared the gospel for all peoples also prepared all peoples for the gospel? Don Richardson, author of best-selling Peace Child, demonstrates through compelling stories from many different cultures how the concept of a supreme God has existed for centuries in hundreds of cultures throughout the world. From deep in the jungles of Burma to a majestic fortress in Peru and in countless other civilizations, people have exhibited in their histories terms and concepts that have prepared them for the gospel.  Eternity in Their Hearts shows how God uses redemptive analogies to bring all men to Himself, bearing out the truth from Ecclesiastes that God “has also set eternity in the hearts of men.”

Anyway, I loved the book when I read it and thought that it might provide a resource for those who want to research more.

E

[Monita]

I forgot all about this thread after my computer crashed.  It is so very interesting!  When I had watched the show it just made me wonder how they all knew such similar things.  Pretty cool, but makes my brain hurt.LOL

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