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[Sunshine06]

I don't have any Titus2 women to learn from IRL & I am SO grateful for the teaching I get from the others here.

this is the case for my wife also

she spends some time on 7xsunday forums and much more time on WTM forums and has made some friends and learned some times... honestly i don't spend much time here, but its a blessing to her and i'll pay for that

rally the troops.. how much do we need by.. wednesday was it?

Just bumping the question. Gabe, if people are willing/able to give what is needed to pay for the server, will you keep it going? If so, how much?

[basething]

This is written to those who have ears to hear:


                                     a last ditch effort to teach on giving.



Simply put, the Bible does not teach that ministers/teachers are to unashamedly ask for support, sell anything,  promote(per-say) “their ministries”, or work(outside the word) to keep community alive. Quite the opposite!

The authors of scripture teach that teachers are to teach (not beg). And those who benefit from the teaching are taught by scripture to put on giving (not waiting for their teachers to beg).

 “Let him that is taught in the word communicate unto him that teacheth in all good things.
        (Note that nothing here implies the idea of giving to a “ministry” , supporting a “ministry”, or giving financial advice to a teacher to put off teaching and study so he can get a job,  or to counsel a teacher to invest more “wisely” in the world to obtain greater financial stability all to support a so called ministry. There is nothing here that teaches a teacher to go to war at his own charges (1Cor 9:7)
    No this is all about those who benefit from the corn not muzzling the ox that treads the corn.  Its about the man who plants the vineyard eating the fruit of it.

  The passage continues:

  Be not deceived;

      Did you get that? DID YOU GET THAT? the implication is that if you do not give to the teacher then you are deceived. If you want (or counsel) the teacher to put off teaching and study to get a job, then you are deceived.  If you can find any reason to not sow to the spirit then you are deceived.
     Its the job of a teacher to make manifest, to remove darkness and let the light expose truth so that those who he teaches are no longer deceived.


 God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.  For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting. Gal. 6:6-8





 Gabe is not a rich men, in fact i'm sure he fits way under what is defined as poverty level in this country. Not only is he not now a rich man, but he will never be a rich man. The reason for this is that he -unlike many who promote their ministries and ask unashamedly for “support”-, understands the principles laid out in1Tim 6:5-10, and he chooses not to “err from the faith”.     
     Furthermore he has learned at the feet of our God to understand giving, and thereby that he is to give of the first and the fat (Gen. 4),  to give of his sustenance (Mark 12) to give to the household of faith and to give to those who teach him.

Having understood giving it is therefore meet that  teachers teach others to understand giving and to give.
   
     Which is why i offered the tithe document a few years ago and thereby began teaching on 7xsunday about giving, since then both Gabe and i have touched on the subject and Gabe has also written the God and mammon document. Which means that this is nothing new.........But.....
 ....... our teaching from scripture has seemingly fell on ears that were dulled by antics (read marketing techniques) of televangelists, radio preachers, mega church ministries and nearly every preacher in every 501c3 pulpit in this country.  -----And so---- God's word as put forth in this humble forum, was-- to many, neither understood nor put on.

God's word, however,  is powerful even towards those who will not hear it. As Paul said, “God is not mocked”. He said it in the context of those who having been taught need to give to those who have taught them (specifically spiritual things), and it carries the idea that if those who are taught do not sow  to God and toward the teacher, that -----------------God -------------(not the teacher) will see to it that the teaching will not take hold and the teacher will be taken away.

No matter how many jobs Gabe takes on to keep 7xsunday “alive”, God is still not mocked, and He will not be mocked. He established the way things are to work in the body, and if the people are unwilling to submit themselves to scripture, then--- He---- will see to it that everyone who is not willing to sow to the spirit will not reap the spiritual benefit, (in this case of
7xsunday).

Gabe has put on the spirit of Paul's example found in 1Cor 9:11-12  in this thing, But God has put Gabe in a place (i believe for your benefit) that he is unable to continue the spiritual welfare state. Gabe had a right to share of your carnal things, and yet he did not use the power, but rather chose to suffer all things so as to not hinder the Gospel. He and his family live it! And they live it in the face of those who ridicule, belittle, and condemn them for worshiping God in spirit and in truth. In my opinion they were condemned by people who were not worthy of ever knowing a man or his family who love their God as much and as purely as Gabe and Rebekah. But this isn't about those who condemn,  rather it is about you who have your ears open to hear and your hearts soft toward the word of the Living God.
       It is to me clear from scripture that if you do not sow then you will not continue to grow and if you do not grow then you will not reap.



Gabe cannot market his work for God, because that is wrong before God. He can teach, suggest and encourage, But it is up to you to sow.


Many of you have said that you cannot give (by implication to God) you've said you wish that you could give wheelbarrows full of money, but i said that we do not want your money. my statements seem to have caused confusion, and to those without understanding i am sure seems conflicting. But i said what i meant. i don't want your money and Gabe does not want your money. we don't care about money we've proved that with our lives. What we want is your spiritual maturity. we want you to grow in the knowledge of the Holy One. we want you to increase in the understanding and wisdom of the whole counsel of God concerning our Lord and God Jesus Christ the righteous. The problem is that GOD is NOT MOCKED!!! if you don't sow then you cannot reap, it is that simple.


i have said it before and i will probably say it again; my thoughts are that my God can do more with two mites given sacrificially by a widow out of a pure and willing heart, than He can do with billions given of the abundance of those who are unwilling to hear because their hearts are hardened. The point is give, give sacrificially, and give to God.





If 7xsunday goes down, Gabe (and i), like the Levites in Nehemiah 13,
will be found in our fields



 .....the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.
Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto treasure hid in a field; the which when a man hath found, he hideth, and for joy thereof goeth and selleth all that he hath, and buyeth that field.
 Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto a merchant man, seeking goodly pearls:Who, when he had found one pearl of great price, went and sold all that he had, and bought it.
Mat 13:43-46 and context





john

[ridgerunner]

Many of you have said that you cannot give (by implication to God) you've said you wish that you could give wheelbarrows full of money, but i said that we do not want your money. my statements seem to have caused confusion, and to those without understanding i am sure seems conflicting.

Well, since I made the wheelbarrow comment, I feel the need to defend myself.  I never said that I am unable to give to God, I give, and I give a lot, sometimes to the point that I am afraid that I've went too far, and somehow when I do this more abundance always turns up (from God).  I did not do this until Gabe put out his God and Mammon document and I read it and was excited to finally understand what the Bible meant about giving since I'd always been disgusted by preachers going around asking for support and berating from their pulpits about their congregations not giving enough.  I was extremely excited to understand this and started giving.  However, some things changed in my personal situation around that time and it seemed that God was trying to teach me a lesson.  The lesson was - "will you still be excited to give when you don't have as much?" I have tried to be righteous and do this.  But - as Gabe stated in the God and Mammon document, wives need to remain under their husband's headship when it comes to giving.  I cannot give to Gabe and Beka (specifically) now without defying my husband.  I meant with my statement that I wish I could give to them without going against my husband.  They have taught me so much and I owe them soooo much, but the very teachings I understood from Gabe are what prevents me from giving to them now. 

I totally understood where Gabe was coming from and did not take his post as him begging for money.  I just wanted to say how much I appreciate them and all they've taught me.

[basething]

Ridgerunner

you have no need to defend yourself, i did not intend to point fingers at anyone and especially those who's ears are open, (and i believe yours are) my statements were made in general i just used concepts presented by a number of posters here and on WTM. i thought your heart was right and the expression beautiful, i had no intentions of offending i was simple trying to reiterate a teaching.

God bless you
 and forgive me for making you feel as though you needed to defend yourself



john

[ridgerunner]

Ridgerunner

you have no need to defend yourself, i did not intend to point fingers at anyone and especially those who's ears are open, (and i believe yours are) my statements were made in general i just used concepts presented by a number of posters here and on WTM. i thought your heart was right and the expression beautiful, i had no intentions of offending i was simple trying to reiterate a teaching.

God bless you
 and forgive me for making you feel as though you needed to defend yourself



john

I'm sorry John, maybe the thought of losing my teachers is making me overly sensetive.  :-(

[Mrs. B]

So often when we say that we are blessed in this life it seems that it pertains to material things.  I appreciate and thank Gabe and John for helping me to see what true grace and blessing can be.
I won't pretend that I understand everything you guys have presented but Mr B and I have grown alot thru discussion on your teachings. 
I also appreciate all of the women whose fellowship and guidance have helped me to grow as a wife, mother and a potentially-Godly woman.

One thing that my pastor here presented a while back is that there comes a time when we need to stop depending upon being fed by others and start looking to feeding ourselves spiritually.  Maybe this is that time, and I don't mean this in a pretentious way, please.  Maybe instead of more talk and discussion we do just need more action.

I don't want to see any of the sites gone, but at the same time maybe it would spur me on to using what I've learned here in a more practical manner regularly, more living and less theory.   

[rainygladness]

Simply put, the Bible does not teach that ministers/teachers are to unashamedly ask for support, sell anything,  promote (per-say) “their ministries”, or work(outside the word) to keep community alive.

Well, now I, too, feel the need to defend myself since I made the comments parodied above.  I don't want to jump in the ring with a lion or start any controversy but I would like to try to explain what I meant. 

I was actually referring to NGJ ministries who have been a huge blessing to many and happen to be a 501c3 corp and who asks "unashamedly" for support. (I was not referring to televangelists, pulpit beggars or the like. )  NGJ products are sold for a price and they ask their readers to support their efforts in missionary aid through comic book purchases at times.  Even though they charge money, their work continues to be abundantly blessed by God.  Prices haven't stopped my husband from following the leading of the Holy Spirit in giving freelyregardless of any prices (and often independent of them).  I only say this because I really believe that God blesses those who say "here am I, send me" ---whether they charge or not.   

With that said...

I DO understand what Gabe's being led to do.  He wants any giving to his ministry to be done strictly by the leading of the Holy Spirit.  Letting God determine the gift amount rather than a set price or fee. Do I have that right?  So one family might pray and feel God lead them to give exactly $42.68.  And another might feel God leading them to give a vehicle, and another $500 and another a monthly donation and so on. And also that leading may not be neccassarily to Gabe's ministry either, although if they've been fed by it, they owe it. Right? He wants to encourage those here to seek God for any amount to give and go with that.   God will lead. God will feed. God will succeed. 

[naturalgirl]

   Thinking about how sometimes we just don't understand the Lord's ways, or why things happen the way they do, this song came to mind. His ways are so higher than ours. When we follow Him, nothing is impossible nor hidden from Him. At the close of 7xsunday, I can still only continue to praise my God, no matter what/when/where/why. 


For Thou O Lord art High
Above all the earth
Thou art exalted
Far above all gods

I exalt Thee!
I exalt Thee!
I exalt Thee,
O Lord.

[smfmommy]

so its not about money clearly

Nope, its about following God.  They want everyone to follow God.  If God doesn't lead anybody to give then obviously its not what God wants.  If you feel led to give, then give.  The amount doesn't matter.

[Homeschool_Newbie]

Wow... I haven't read all the posts here... but I just want to say THANK YOU to the Anasts, Sclady, Amyjoy, Mrs. B, Denim and Lace... OH... I know I must be forgetting some names! Gabe... your post spoke to me... It's hard to put it into words... but what you said spoke to me, and all I can say at this point is THANK YOU!  So many people here have blessed me in many many ways....

One thing that my pastor here presented a while back is that there comes a time when we need to stop depending upon being fed by others and start looking to feeding ourselves spiritually.  Maybe this is that time, and I don't mean this in a pretentious way, please.  Maybe instead of more talk and discussion we do just need more action.

Thank you, Mrs. B I agree...

At a loss for words... *sniff* Thank you all....

[freshisbest]

The amount doesn't matter.

the amount does matter... while i do have the ability to give, i am not wealthy... i don't want to say "i'll pay for a month" if i don't know what a month costs... also, its not clear if its shutting down because of money or not... there's an under-tone of Gabe just being worn out and 'done with it'... which money doesn't fix

so if an amount is given it can possibly (and swiftly) be met, and if an amount is given it will show intent/desire to keep it going IMO (without any new studies by gabe for the time being, but at least as a standing resource for those wishing to read it.. both here and welltellme)

For instance, there are over 6000 " members" here. If everyone sent in 50 cents that would be $3000. Is that what it costs per month? I think to " keep it light" a simple " hey guys I have to get back to a real job and need some help supporting 7XSunday...does anyone wanna help? Here's an address" and see where it goes. You certainly cannot put a price on the ministry at this site. Any more than we can put a price on our salvation. But this is a website...and asking for support does not seem to me to be such a big deal. I don't think Gabe should feel uncomfortable putting his family before 7XSunday. Just my 2 cents. Which if we all gave back would be $120. ( I definately think in numbers!)

[ridgerunner]

If I understand right, I think their point is that they want people to give to God, where God tells them to, here or otherwise, and not to give here simply out of a (well intentioned) desire to keep these sites open.  In other words, if God tells you to give to Gabe, he will also tell you exactly how much.  If I understand right.   So - it seems to me that if you want to know how much you need to give, a months worth or whatever, ask God to be sure He wants you to give here, then ask God how much (not Gabe).  That's how it appears to me anyway...   

[basething]

rainygladness

you have no need to defend yourself,

my earlier statements seemed to have caused you confusion, and though my post was meant in general, i was also intentionally attempting to address the confusion that you legitimately expressed. Understanding that if you were confused by our presentation then others were probably as well. i used a part of your post because i thought it covered a broad line of thinking about giving.

(the following is not directed toward you but rather toward those who have taught you to understand giving this way.)
That form of thinking, as i understand the Bible, is error.  No matter who uses it, if they would have spent the time and energy teaching soundly from God's word on Biblical giving, rather than constructing marketing strategies and the like, then you and i would not be having this discussion, it would not be at issue on 7xSunday, and they would have had no need to invest time labor or money in marketing.


i was simply trying to reiterate what we have already taught. But doing so in this present context.

i had no intention of offending you or anyones else who's ears are open.

 Forgive me for the offense


john

[andiclare]

So it's Tuesday, and we're still up...

[andiclare]

The amount doesn't matter.

the amount does matter... while i do have the ability to give, i am not wealthy... i don't want to say "i'll pay for a month" if i don't know what a month costs... also, its not clear if its shutting down because of money or not... there's an under-tone of Gabe just being worn out and 'done with it'... which money doesn't fix

so if an amount is given it can possibly (and swiftly) be met, and if an amount is given it will show intent/desire to keep it going IMO (without any new studies by gabe for the time being, but at least as a standing resource for those wishing to read it.. both here and welltellme)

Numbersguy,

This whole thing has been pretty confusing. My own though process has run alongside what you've posted so far in this thread, so I understand exactly what you mean. I think (I hope) that it's finally starting to come together and make some sense to me...

If I understand correctly, they aren't going to post a rundown of exact amounts that are needed to keep the sites up because that would, even subtly, contradict this:

Simply put, the Bible does not teach that ministers/teachers are to unashamedly ask for support, sell anything,  promote(per-say) “their ministries”, or work(outside the word) to keep community alive. Quite the opposite!

The authors of scripture teach that teachers are to teach (not beg). And those who benefit from the teaching are taught by scripture to put on giving (not waiting for their teachers to beg).

So...again, if I'm understanding correcting...if you have been taught by this ministry then you should give to the teachers as God guides you. The amount doesn't matter. And if you don't want to give unless some kind of explanation/exact amount is posted because you don't want to give what might be a considerable amount (to us at least) if it's only going to be a drop in the bucket and won't make a dent in the need the teachers have or to keep the sites up...Well we shouldn't worry about that, because since we're giving to God, nothing will be wasted and it won't be in vain. If the teachers turn out to not be prudent or deserving, they'll stand in judgement before God for that.

I might not have that right, but that's how I'm understanding it. 

[Joyfulmomto9]

Way beyond the website geting shut down (which I hope does not happen!)   There is a family that has needs.  A family with little children to feed and to cloth.  The Anasts have obeyed God and His call for Gabe to teach the word and there is a cost in following the Lord.  As a body of believers we should not have had to let it get to the point that it is before we realized that they needed something. 

I am very very glad it has been made manifest that they do need something.

We value the teaching here and we value the family behind the teaching.

BTW:  I would never ever even dream that Gabe should be councled to do anything other than just exactly what God has told him to do.  Let us not be high minded in our exhortation of others rather let us put on humility as we ask God what does He want us to do?!  What God tells one person to do probably won't be what He tells someone else to do but He in fact does instruct us individually and we had better figure out what that is and be ready to follow it........He is talking to all of us......do we hear it??

[RunAmokFarm]

What I am seeing in the posts in the last day shows a definite undercurrent - one that has been flowing strongly for some time.  While many of our families have benefitted from both WTM & 7X (& UE!) almost equally, there seems to be a line drawn in the sand, with some folks really relying heavily upon 7X for spiritual fellowship and/or teaching, versus those who "drop in" on occasion but primarily use WTM for more of the physical benefit...  Of course, there is a reason (and need) for both sites, but in truth, some families have been open to the teachings presented here on 7X, and some have been utterly offended.  I think this shows, at least in part, in the responses here as well as on WTM.   

I want to encourage everyone here to PRAY.  Pray the Lord give Gabe clear direction in the way he must go, both for these sites, as well as for his own family.  Making these decisions must weigh heavily on their family - I am pretty sure, from what we see here (online posts) that this is merely the tip of the iceberg; the number of pm's they have received must be HUGE.

Of course, everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but while some posts are merely sharing that they would be sad if the sites go down but are open to the Lord's will in this matter, to me, it feels like some of the comments [in some cases] stem from earlier disagreements, with more of an "oh well" type response.  Again, to me, these seem hurtful -- especially when so many have invested an incredible amout of time, money, prayer... and love toward the members here.

Please, let us remember to encourage, uplift, and edify...

I understand some of the confusion and questions, but for the most part am wondering why we can't take Gabe's comments for what they are?  His family has been living tough for some time; while they are trusting the Lord to meet their needs, I think the information Gabe has relayed thus far is merely showing that he simply isn't sure where all this is headed at the moment - so he has just been posting as he works through this...   

Isn't it "ok" for him to be waiting on the Lord for answers?  They have been honest about being unsure -- with all the time, effort and money invested, I imagine they are feeling a bit "burnt out" as well.  I think most of us have felt that way at some point...  One aspect he has been clear about:  he did not want to have to ask for money (and scripturally should not have to!) to keep 7X up and running...

The big question for some has been: 
If we are feeling led to give to those who have spent their time teaching here, is there a way we can do so?    

For our family, we DO feel led to give... granted, we are living very "tough" as well -- but I have a bit in my PayPal account that could be transferred instantly.  If there is not a PayPal account set up specifically for 7X, could it be possible to do this?  That said, it may simply be that Gabe is completely unsure which way to go with this, so if you (Gabe) read this, I pray that you feel LESS pressure, not more.  We are finding, in our own lives, that very often, God's timing is not our own...

We love you all!!
J

 

[Joyfulmomto9]

This is not meant to be an inflammitory statement and I hope it isn't taken that way but:

I see alot of humility in John and Gabe and Rebecca......you get that from following the Lord and no matter what the cost.......it makes a real humble person out of you when you give your life to God and let HIM decide how you will live it......He won't choose for you to live deliciously....that will not be HIS will....His will - will be to walk before Him in humility...

I see alot of arrogance in others with the "oh, well attitude."   Do we really care what God thinks?  Do we really care what the word of God says?  Or does it just tear down our nicely built castles in the air?  That "oh well attitude" is a very telling attitude for out of the heart flow the issues of life

[denim&lace]

Gabe and Beka,
I love you both.  I pray for  you by  name.  If I had more to give that was my own, I would...  I pray you and your household are fed and clothed out of the abundance of all that God has to offer.  I couldn't thank you enough for the prayers and support you have given me.  I will be grateful to you both into eternity...   

[rainygladness]

Forgive me for the offense
john

John, none taken. 
Thanks for taking time to clarify where you were coming from. 

[snowflake]

Way beyond the website geting shut down (which I hope does not happen!)   There is a family that has needs.  A family with little children to feed and to cloth.  The Anasts have obeyed God and His call for Gabe to teach the word and there is a cost in following the Lord.  As a body of believers we should not have had to let it get to the point that it is before we realized that they needed something. 

I am very very glad it has been made manifest that they do need something.

We value the teaching here and we value the family behind the teaching.
[/b][/i]

Thank you, Joyfulmomto9.  This is what i have been thinking all day.  I can't speak for anyone else, but as for myself, I am sorry that I didn't talk to my husband about giving here sooner.  I had thought about it, but never did it.     I am truly sorry that it got to this point, because I know I should have been giving all along.  This has been a practical lesson to reinforce the teachings on giving.  I am just sorry it took so much to get my attention.

[ridgerunner]

If we are feeling led to give to those who have spent their time teaching here, is there a way we can do so?

The address to send donations to has been here in reply #15 since yesterday....

P.O. Box 1788, Gallup, NM 87305

[rejoicing]

Can we have a dollar amount? How much is a server monthly?
I hope it is  not too late...

Can we make it so that the information is free to read, but anyone who nwants to post can pay a small membership fee?

eta: Or even just a fee to access the buy/sell section on WTM.....

[lovetoreadmom]

I don't have any Titus2 women to learn from IRL & I am SO grateful for the teaching I get from the others here.

this is the case for my wife also

she spends some time on 7xsunday forums and much more time on WTM forums and has made some friends and learned some times... honestly i don't spend much time here, but its a blessing to her and i'll pay for that

rally the troops.. how much do we need by.. wednesday was it?

I feel the same way about a lot of this.  It's not about depending on it necessarily, but it is about the friendships that I've made here and how much I would lose if that all went away.  Please, Lord, if there's a way, can they remain?      Isn't fellowship, counsel from Godly believers, accountability important, esp. today in a world where so many are going astray?  These sites have been about walking away from the mainstream, whether it's physical in location (Urban Exocus) or in health (WTM) or spiritual (7xS).  It's been a banding together that many here have done and others have sought out.  It's been a beacon of hope for those who wish to have husbands they can go to for spiritual doctrine, counsel, teaching, etc., but since their DH's are unsaved, they have sought wisdom from men and women here to know how to act and react toward those men to bring them to Christ.

Am I missing something here . . . am I wrong?

I'll definitely 2nd, 3rd, 4th, or 1000th, the motion . . . there must be away to either keep going or keep in touch.  This is a network that cannot be allowed to die.   

I like the membership fee idea.  I just think everyone will have to be very open-minded and patient about it as any or all kinks will need to be worked out by those who would be working on that.  Seeing the sentiment here, I don't believe that would be a problem. 

[Cherika Four Seasons]

wow.....this sucks. seriously.

We don't have a working computer atm so I'm on a public one and have to be quick.....i will really miss 7xs if it really has to go. Thank you so so much for all the sacrifices and teaching, and for not being scared of offending people. Thank you all the people who've taken time to pray and write replies.

Thank you Gabe and Beka for running 7xs, and to the mods as well.  Thank you God for 7xs!     

p.s. have to add, thanks for all the broadcasts and for answering our bible questions. I hope 7xs doesn't go for real   

love, Genevieve Joy
 

[andiclare]

A membership fee for 7xSunday wouldn't work. Because of this:

Simply put, the Bible does not teach that ministers/teachers are to unashamedly ask for support, sell anything,  promote(per-say) “their ministries”, or work(outside the word) to keep community alive. Quite the opposite!

The authors of scripture teach that teachers are to teach (not beg). And those who benefit from the teaching are taught by scripture to put on giving (not waiting for their teachers to beg).

I think that instead of them charging us for using this site, we have to simply give what is fairly owed to those that have taught us. Keeping in mind that if we don't, the site isn't going to "run itself" anymore and could go down for good. 

[rejoicing]

but there's a difference in teachers asking for handouts, and us paying to maintain a website we utilize...

[Jesus_Princess]

Oh my!!!  I feel so silly but my eyes are tearing up    I saw the thread on WTM and came straight here.

If it is God's will go for it!

I just want to say I will miss it and everyone on here!  You have all taught me a lot along with what I am learning at home and school and work.  I have enjoyed the input, the funny stories, the humility, longing for more of Christ, joys, the tears, the struggles and the triumphs.  I do hope that all the archives and such will be able to be saved for rereading.  My life in relation to the computer will definitely not be the same without 7xSunday!
God bless you and remember
You alone can rescue, You alone can save
You alone can lift us from the grave
You came down to find us, led us out of death
To You alone belongs the highest praise
and
For greater things have yet to come
And greater things are still to be done in this City
Greater thing have yet to come
And greater things are still to be done in this City
Good-bye!  

[Cherika Four Seasons]

  If there is not a PayPal account set up specifically for 7X, could it be possible to do this? 

i second this, is there a way to give through paypal? 

[Laughter]

Good Morning Everyone  
So Happy to still have 7xSunday this morning! 
God is Good

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