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[ridgerunner]

Good Morning Everyone  
So Happy to still have 7xSunday this morning! 
God is Good

Amen! 

[Titus2woman]

I haven't shared the same comeraderie as others, as I have had trouble finding my "fit" all over and am not even sure anyone here would even remember me.  Some of that could be due to grumpy pregnancy hormones~LOL!  but I really have enjoyed 7XS and would hate to see it go!  I am so grateful and appreciate the time and work and energy that has gone into everything here! 

Just quickly I wanted to share about the comments on not giving support here due to not believing some of the teachings.  I don't know about y'all, but we have yet to find a place where we believe 100% of the teachings hook, line, and sinker!  This would not keep me from supporting a good work (else we'd *never* do it) or sharing with someone in need.  Just my unasked for .02!  (((((HUGS)))))  sandi

[ridgerunner]

I have had trouble finding my "fit" all over and am not even sure anyone here would even remember me.

I've always enjoyed your posts Sandi, I'm sorry I never said so.    I would certainly remember and miss you if this site went down.  Like amy3js said, this place has become a place of accountability for me.  If this site goes away, I'm glad I'll at least be able to think "what would the women on 7xs say??"  when measuring my actions.

[amy3js]

I have had trouble finding my "fit" all over and am not even sure anyone here would even remember me.

I've always enjoyed your posts Sandi, I'm sorry I never said so.   

I ditto ridgerunner, I enjoy your posts and certainly remember you! Plus you have a cute avatar. 

[herbalmom]

I haven't shared the same comeraderie as others, as I have had trouble finding my "fit" all over and am not even sure anyone here would even remember me.  Some of that could be due to grumpy pregnancy hormones~LOL!  but I really have enjoyed 7XS and would hate to see it go!  I am so grateful and appreciate the time and work and energy that has gone into everything here! 

Just quickly I wanted to share about the comments on not giving support here due to not believing some of the teachings.  I don't know about y'all, but we have yet to find a place where we believe 100% of the teachings hook, line, and sinker!  This would not keep me from supporting a good work (else we'd *never* do it) or sharing with someone in need.  Just my unasked for .02!  (((((HUGS)))))  sandi

I've always enjoyed your posts Sandi, I'm sorry I never said so.    I would certainly remember and miss you if this site went down.  Like amy3js said, this place has become a place of accountability for me.  If this site goes away, I'm glad I'll at least be able to think "what would the women on 7xs say??"  when measuring my actions.

I ditto ridgerunner, I enjoy your posts and certainly remember you! Plus you have a cute avatar. 

Ditto from me as well on all the above. Y'all just said it better than I could. (((((HUGS)))))
 

[GarlicMomma]

So glad to see 7x and WTM still on today. It warms me and encourages me. I have already had to look up more answers! So glad to find them too!

I wish I could support these sites, I get such help from them, but am not allowed to do so.  It is great, superb, encouraging, __________ (fill in your own superlative) to have these real answers.  Plus it seems those of similar mind are few and far between, but here we are drawn together.

[denim&lace]

Well, I'm thankful for one more day of 7XSunday!  

Sandi!  I thought you were just 'one of the gang'!  I never realized you didn't fit... of course, I see most of us on here as a bunch of misfits.    And I'm glad to know each of them!

[AndysJess]

I can sympathize with you fellow "misfits!!"   

Ditto your post D&L...I was just thinking that!!

[herbalmom]

I've been known as a 'misfit' for a LONG time & this is the BEST group of misfits I have ever known.   

These sites have truly been a gift from God to me. Thank You, Lord for all the help I've received, for the friends I've made, for the Godly advice, a kick in the pants when needed  , etc.

Thanks again to Gabe, Beka, mods, etc for all the time, money & work you have put into all this.

[andiclare]

These 'misfit' posts made me think about America today, and how counter-cultural so many of us 7xSunday-ers lives and beliefs are. I think there's nothing wrong with being a misfit in today's world.   

[SC lady]

Thanking God for another day among the misfits. 
SC

[Mrs. B]

Hehe, SC...
Titus2woman... I know that I would have missed you and your perspective had you not been on 7x.  I think each woman here has brought her own beautiful, unique style, and I have learned so much from each of you.
I went to our local Bible study group last night and could only think of how different my thoughts and views are from modern society.  So put me on your boat, SC, with all the other misfits....   
Though I was hanging out with a wonderful lady I actually met thru WTM 2 days ago and she said we were the normal ones with our kids, animals, and simple living, and that it was  the rest of society that  had just gotten strange.

[Monita]

I haven't shared the same comeraderie as others, as I have had trouble finding my "fit" all over and am not even sure anyone here would even remember me.

I understand where you are coming from as I too feel that I did not quite fit here.

My feeling was because I felt such a smallness compared to those here who just seem so BIG in their faith and understanding and knowledge of God and His ways, and I'm always feeling so clumbsy.   I feel like a misfit all of the time everywhere I go, even in my own home.  I think I have allowed that misfit feeling to cause me to be timid and insecure in my faith.   To act like a misfit.  If I am a misfit then my only hope is that the Lord wants misfits!   And if the Lord wants misfits and I am one then that is awsome and I should feel strong, secure, and bold in knowing that I totally fit in with misfits. 

I am so happy to see this site still up as I have been so blessed by you ladies and have this day to tell you so.  Bless you guys, I love you! 
My computer crashed and I was not here for a month.  I missed you all and the fellowship here and was so sad to see that the site may be off.  May Gods will be done.

Thank you Gabe, Beka, SC, AmyJoy, Tavis for your labor in this.  Thank you.

[smfmommy]

If I am a misfit then my only hope is that the Lord wants misfits!   And if the Lord wants misfits and I am one then that is awsome and I should feel strong, secure, and bold in knowing that I totally fit in with misfits. 

1Peter 2:9  But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:

I know peculiar then doesn't mean the same as we usually use it now but this verse always makes me feel better when I am feeling "weird" in my faith.

 

[herbalmom]

My feeling was because I felt such a smallness compared to those here who just seem so BIG in their faith and understanding and knowledge of God and His ways, and I'm always feeling so clumbsy.   I feel like a misfit all of the time everywhere I go, even in my own home.  I think I have allowed that misfit feeling to cause me to be timid and insecure in my faith.   To act like a misfit.  If I am a misfit then my only hope is that the Lord wants misfits!   And if the Lord wants misfits and I am one then that is awsome and I should feel strong, secure, and bold in knowing that I totally fit in with misfits. 

You might be surprised to know that I feel this way a lot also. I'm not a big in my faith by any means.   

[Gabriel Anast]

Hey, the server fee was paid by someone who had no idea of anything that was going on... and the money was sent even before I had made any public statement. Pretty cool.

It is also amazing (to me) that it was sent by someone who read the God and Mammon document when I posted it... Not saying here that they should have believed what I said about the Bible, rather that it seems that they saw some of the things the Bible presents after I took the time to teach on them. It was my abundance toward them that they requited with their abundance toward me (and toward all of you). See 2 Cor 8 if you need context for that last statement.

We will see what the future holds. To those others that have given, you have my thanks and my blessing if you gave to me, and my love and satisfaction if you gave it some other way. Make sure it was the first and the fat... if it wasn't... give more. Not to me... to God. Give exactly as God leads... and ask Him for His blessing when you do.

For those that will not give, this is between them and God, but I want to warn about a couple of things:

First for those of you women that have husbands who will not give: this is fine... their wealth it not in your hand. However, remember that there is some wealth in your hand. I do not know a woman on earth who's husband has not given her some money / things with which she can do what she likes. Again... the point is not to give it to me... but do give it to God. Give the first and the best of what you have to give. Remember this and put on this righteousness. Take that $10 bill, and buy a $1 [fill in the need] for the widow's son next door. Do it this time and every time you have that $10 to spend.

Second, as I understand God's ways, they by nature tend toward wealth... and disobedience tends toward poverty. Read Solomon's writings if you have any doubt. So... if you find yourself in stark poverty, ask yourself, "Why?" and find God's answer. For those in poverty, poverty in itself is no excuse not to give. The widow's mite is our example. Don't refuse to be righteous because you are poor. As an aside, really poor people (in my experience) are commonly the most generous, whereas people that claim to be poor in order to justify their miserly actions... are usually anything but.

Finally, if any of you think that I intend to somehow get popular or rich by the things I teach... you are seriously confused. The things I have taught here from the beginning would (I expect) make any man hated, reviled, poor and cast out. I'm OK with this. I am (as I see it) in good company.

It is my overwhelming desire that you (and I) learn to be righteous. Put away covetousness. Shed ourselves of the cares of this world.

--gabe

PS: Having read this post again... I don't mean it to be heavy. But I know what is coming.... and God help you all, it is time to repent to the Living God.

PPS: If anyone burns their motorcycle, I would really like to see a video of it... haha, OK, that is to say, if you feel you can, please post your stories of giving the first and the fat... and what happened as a result between you and God. I have one to tell... I'll post it as I have time.

[ridgerunner]

PPS: If anyone burns their motorcycle, I would really like to see a video of it...

You're giving me seizures talking of burning motorcycles here Gabe!     (joking, joking...)

[herbalmom]

Thank You, Lord! (where's a praise smilley when we need one?  ) Thank you also to whomever it was that paid the server fee.

I for one am looking forward to reading your story Gabe.

I was typing the following to post when Gabe posted:

Gabe,

I'm not going to leave but I also ask your forgiveness b/c like Cara, I feel that I personally have taken advantage. WTM/7XS/UE has been my church, ministry & support group. Between DH's  work schedule & my medical problems we don't belong to a church & I don't have any local, like minded friends.  This has all been a huge blessing to me & I should have helped support it. We have had one thing after another pile up on us the last few years & I have been too stressed, trying to solve everything on my own & not listening to the Lord's leading enough. If nothing else the Lord is using it to speak to me about listening & trusting him more. Money is beyond tight for us right now & has been for a long time but I waiting on the Lord & DH to see what they would have me do.

I think what Gabe just posted will be interesting food for though for DH when he reads it. I know it's got me thinking already. 

Thanks for everything you do for us Gabe & blessings to you & your family.

~herbalmom

 

[khix]

PTL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

God is sooooooooo good!

 

[sarajane]

I only just now read these posts. It is awesome what God can do, that the server was paid for is wonderful.

I haven't been on here in a long time. I used to come here a lot and many of you were here for me through two of the hardest times in my life. Many people here gave to me in my time of need and that was amazing and wonderful. I was awed by the generosity of it.

This is a wonderful website and I praise God for everyone who makes this site possible. And I am thankful not only for the money I have been given in the past when I had a need but for the kind words, the time that was taken to answer my cries for help and the help that came even when I didn't ask. I saved every letter I received and love you all. Those words of encouragement are so much more precious than any money, the money was of course a welcome offering.

But the money of course was spent on funeral costs, etc. but the memory of the kindness showed to me will be remembered in my heart forever. The gift of the time you took just to write me a note, make me a CD of songs and even have your children draw me pictures...it still brings tears of peace and joy to my eyes. Thank you and I pray we will always have a place like this to come to in a time of need.

Love and peace in Christ Jesus,
Jennifer Sara

[Suchender]

I hope 7xs and wtm stay around but i can understand if  Gods will is diferant than ours.
I appreciate all Gabe and Beka have done for 7xs.

[GarlicMomma]

Thank you everyone for the past few posts. They helped a lot!  So thankful for them.

[andiclare]

Gabe-- was so happy to see your post about the server today! Thank you God for sustaining 7xSunday for a little while longer, as it pleases you.

[Titus2woman]

AW!  I truly was not fishing for any support there, but y'all do so bless me more than you know~*THANK YOU!*  I am grateful for your testimony, Gabe, and am SO GLAD to see 7xS is still here!  (((((HUGS)))))  sandi~happy to be counted amongst the misfits~LOL!

ETA that I often feel too conservative for the liberals and too liberal for the conservatives~LOL!

[Mrs. B]

T2W.... I always said the same thing... that I was too conservative for the liberals/ too liberal for the conservatives ... when I realized it's because I'm not aspiring to either of these worldly entities ( or even libertarianism anymore   )
I've found that when I am seeking God alot of the -isms of the world, like religions and politics, seem so short-sighted.

[AndysJess]

I've realized lately how much of a minority I really am...and that's ok.  I'm honoring my husband and honoring my God.  There is so much freedom in that.  I'll never go back to trying to adapt, conform or fit in with those around me.  It's too much work for too little reward and often contradictory to what and who my husband is.  I'll submit myself to my "own husband" and let the world(church and non-church alike) think what it will.

[Titus2woman]

Mrs. B and AndysJess~y'all have articulated my own thoughts better than I could have~*THANK YOU* for that perspective!  (((((HUGS)))))  sandi

[Gabriel Anast]

I don't really want to post this, and I don't quite know what / how to say it (making friends and influencing people is not the work of a prophet I guess)... but here it is:

On Sunday morning both Beka and I had peculiar dreams:

Mine first...

I saw a man standing with hands open, palms up in front of him. "In" his hands (sort of levitating over them) were 15 "pieces." These "pieces" were of significant value... maybe worth a year's wage each.

I saw the five that were over his left hand disappear. He seemed ambivalent and like, "sometimes you win, sometimes you loose." It was not a good thing, but I think he was thinking, "They will come back in time."

I then saw the five over his right hand being "taken" (disappearing). When this happened he grasped for them in distress and tried very hard and vehemently to retain them... however he could not and they disappeared. His countenance was visibly shaken and he looked like a man who faced "total failure" whatever that might be.

I saw him standing there with the five remaining "pieces" in his hands and his thoughts were of destitution and "end of life." I thought this was odd since the five pieces that he retained were significant, and sustaining. He would not starve or be homeless, although his lifestyle might have to change significantly. He certainly did not face destitution.

Next Beka's

She and I were in a jewelry store. I had given her some small amount of money for groceries (maybe $80) with which she had been very frugal and had saved $40 while getting the needed groceries.* It was closing time and she quickly looked through all the jewelry looking for just the right thing. Finally she found it and asked the price. It was $50.

She then came to me and asked if she might have $10 more. I pulled out my wallet with a sigh of impatience and began to thumb through an enormous amount of cash, a couple $100's and $20's falling to the floor. I said, "I just don't have enough money" as I continued to look through the bills crammed in my wallet... "I just don't have enough." I continued to mumble. Finally I put my hand back into my pocket and pulled out a crumpled wad of singles... counting them out I had $9 in singles. "See" I said, "I just don't have enough... we'll go somewhere else... I know a place that I can get it cheaper... let's go."

The owner of the store and his family were standing watching, as was the clerk. The owners wife gave her a look like, "Wow, honey, too bad your husband really hates you." The clerk was miffed at the lost sale and all the work she went to when she could be on her way home by now.

Beka/the woman walked out of the store terribly embarrassed and confused and prayed (as she went to the car with me) what her response should be. She felt like God said to reach down and get a handful of dirt to put on her head and to smear on her forehead and to rip her shirt (not off... but to ruin it) in order to express her shame to me.

I looked at her in sort of self-distancing shock and disgust and said, "What are you doing?" She answered that she was so shamed that she could never return to that place again and that this is what she felt like.

My response was to tell her that I would get her a bracelet and that I knew where to get it cheaper... and to shut out the events and her reaction and to get into the car.

The dream ended here, but she continued to pray (while still asleep) and asked, "What can this man do to make up for what he has done?" God's response was, "Buy her $10,000 worth of jewelry in that store. Then her shame would be erased." She, knowing that was laughably impossible, replied, "What if it was just $1,000?" Thinking that would still not even be in the realm of possible... but... trying to get closer anyway. God's response was hesitant and undecided, "Maybe." As if $1,000 might work if he decided at that very moment to get back out of the car, charge up to the departing clerk, and say, "Look, I'll spend $1,000, just keep the store open a little longer..." but not if he waited till later.

So. Interpretation.

The first thing that came to mind as I prayed about Beka's dream was the idea of the "first fruits" that were to be given by the tribes of Israel that lived "regular work-a-day lives" to the sons of Aaron who exclusively maintained the sacrifice and the temple and could by law do no other work. The "first fruits" as the temple accounted it (called "terumah" according to the Babylonian Talmud) was either 1/40th, 1/50th or 1/60th of a years increase. As I understand it, a po0r man could offer 1/60th, but what was typically expected was 1/50th. A man with very great increase might offer 1/40th. $80 is about half of the least one could give on $10,000. It is 1/125 of $10,000.

This "terumah" or "first fruits" was in some ways considered "insurance" for the increase of the year if it was "given correctly." Basically Deuteronomy 28 summarizes this, but not specifically.

Anyway... in the Biblical metaphor, "ten thousand" usually means "uncountable" or "very much / many." If the two dreams are two parts of the same message (I believe they are), then the ten thousand of Beka's dream is the ten pieces of my dream. Evidently they will be lost anyway, you might as well give them now and not have to deal with God's anger on top of it all. If "the man" (me in Beka's dream, the "man" in my dream) had just given what God required, he would face no loss, but since he had not, he faced "complete" loss... see Job for details (not that this is why Job lost his, but the manner of his loss is similar to what will happen to "this man").

I am not saying to give any more to me.

What was given from the time this thread began till now covered maybe 25% to 30% of my expenses. Some gave liberally and purely before God. Some gave little or not at all. But like the water that is in the sink while doing dishes vs. the water that splashes out of the sink while doing dishes... it was the water out of the sink that gave as they should have before God (we kept every address and every amount in a book and prayed over what was offered, asking God to return in kind all that had been given. Its still one of my favorite notebooks to look through... I think its one of God's favorites as well). In other words, very few. My family thinks I am a joke (lol... I think I am a joke... but I am persistent none-the-less) and that this Bible / God thing is ludicrous. Even my father in law asked me, "Why are you not doing anything for God anymore?" Oh man...

I am back to work (for pay) again (at God's leading... I started before we had these dreams) and don't expect anything (from any that read this) more than what has been given. The rest is between you and God. Just because I am "not accepting donations" anymore does not mean in any way that your duty to God is in any way less. He still requires that you offer to Him of what He has given to you... and frankly, He keeps accounts. When what you have is taken from you forcibly, don't say the devil did it... it is probably God allowing the loss of His gifts for which you were demonstrably ungrateful. If you are confused about where to give, maybe look here: http://www.7xsunday.net/forum/index.php/topic,5013.msg247775.html#msg247775

To figure out how and what to give, see Lest you rob God - A FAQ on Tithing and God or Mammon

I will finish the HoJ study and my work here as God wills. God will see to it that it happens if it is indeed His work. What happens next is at His hands. We shall see what it is.

--gabe

*note: I am not this way in real life... if anything I am generous to a fault... if you want to know who I am, see the Proclaimers "...when I'm workin', yes I know I'm gonna be, I'm gonna be the man who's workin' hard for you... When the money comes in for the work I do, I'll pass on almost every penny on to you..."

[Cherika Four Seasons]

I am encouraged 
praying for the Anast family.

thanks again for 7xsunday!

[Beth]

Gabe and Rebecca,
                while it would be so sad to see 7xsunday not here...if that should happen...we (Tim and I) could completely understand. I was telling Tim about your post and decision to go back to work (not that you haven't been).  He wondered how you have done this so long?  His thought was, you do have a wife and children, he couldn't imagine how you could work at a job all day and come home and study, run 7xsunday and spend time with your family... that's a huge load to carry!    Not saying that is what God wants you to do...but we sure wish we could have done something....
              Just want you to know we have been encouraged and learned much while we've "been" here. Some of it has changed our lives for the better! Really!
               Follow God...wherever that leads!   We are not trying to discourage you about trying to keep 7xs...Just trying to be honest with our thoughts....I hope that you find the truth of what God would have you do! 
                                                                                                     your friends Tim N Beth

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