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« on: January 01, 2010, 04:09:20 PM »

Wow, it's been slow around here... I almost feel the need to apologize for asking so many questions, LOL Smiley

I have a friend from high school who is catholic. A year or so ago she told me that she has accepted Christ. There is no fruit in her life... She can't stand the catholic church and it's " rules" as she puts it. ( Please understand that I am not trying to rip on the catholic church here) Today I broached the subject of church with her, asking if she would like to attend my church, has she been attending hers, etc... She told me that she attends mass on Christmas and Easter when she's off work, and to make her mother happy. I asked how she's been growing in her faith. She made it sound like she is not. She just went on and on about all the things she does not like in the catholic church. I told her that my big concern is whether or not a person's faith is lived out during the week, and not just on Sundays. I told her that if I was not growing in a church, it would be time to leave and find another... Although I added that I"ve missed many sermons since I've become a mother, and still grown a lot in my faith through personal study. We talked some about the importance of personal bible study...

I guess my question is this: What is next? How do I encourage someone like her? She seems to have a heart for God, somewhat... she seems concerned about her husband's soul. She knows that our salvation is not based on works or rituals....but honestly, I see no fruit in her life....

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denim&lace
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« Reply #1 on: January 01, 2010, 05:49:49 PM »

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But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. (Galatians 5: 22-23)

*emphasis mine*

She seems to have a heart for God, somewhat... she seems concerned about her husband's soul. She knows that our salvation is not based on works or rituals...

I don't know her and I see fruit!  I see that she realizes that the old religion she has known does not rely on faith, but on works.  She has faith.  She may not know what to do with that yet, but she is trying to express what she knows to be true.  Also I see that she has love for her husband and desires for him to know Jesus.  Love and faith... both fruit.

I can only brooch this subject on the basis of my own experience.  It is my opinion that when folks have been exposed to a false christianity that their salvation experience is more of a series of events, a journey, than a singular point in time.  I grew up in church and experienced much of what you are describing in your friend.  I have been to the altar to get saved and rededicate my life so many times I'd hate to try to count them.  The altar was to me what a confessional is to catholics.  I grew up on a false doctrine, false beliefs and fear of hell... but not of God.  Yet, I know that all along God was there, nudging me toward truth.  The process of my salvation meant leaving the church and coming to hate the false religion I had grown up on.  I had to come to a point where I realized what I had been taught was not of God... but the problem was, I didn't know any other way.  I knew what I had believed was wrong, yet I was ignorant as to what was right.  I had never seen it,  had not heard it taught, and had no idea how to search it out of the scriptures for myself.  When I decided to live by faith, I found myself back in a church that taught the same things I grew up on.  It wasn't right, but it was what I knew and it was comfortable.   Cry     

I believed the story of Christ, like I believed a movie that was based on true events.  I didn't KNOW what Jesus had done for me.  I didn't realize what it meant for Him to be spit on and beaten by the people who were suppose to hold Him up as King and love Him.  I didn't know what He had truly suffered on my behalf.  It took being treated wrongly by somebody who was suppose to love me for me to recognize what Jesus had done for me.  Somewhere in the midst of that situation I BELIEVED!  Praise God!  and I was saved!!!

This is how God brought me out of religion and brought me into a relationship with Himself.  I have seen similar events take place in the lives of other 'religious' people and I think it is a common experience for folks who were raised on false doctrine.     

Honestly H_N, I find it remarkable that you are in a position to watch this woman and nurture the fruit that she is showing... 
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Homeschool_Newbie
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« Reply #2 on: January 01, 2010, 06:09:11 PM »

D and L- I loved your testimony--- AWESOME!!!

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don't know her and I see fruit!  I see that she realizes that the old religion she has known does not rely on faith, but on works.  She has faith.  She may not know what to do with that yet, but she is trying to express what she knows to be true.  Also I see that she has love for her husband and desires for him to know Jesus.  Love and faith... both fruit.

AWWW!!! YES!!! I LOVE IT! You are so right!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Smiley Smiley Smiley

I'm doin' a dance here! Where's that emoticon? Grin
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denim&lace
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« Reply #3 on: January 01, 2010, 06:13:32 PM »

As to nurturing the fruit that is visible in your friends life.  You said she is concerned about her husbands salvation.  That is love.  I would suggest that you nurture that love she has for her husband.  This is THE situation that I would offer Created To Be His Helpmeet without hesitation!  I would offer to read through it and study it with her, not teaching her but learning alongside her.  I would invite her family to fellowship with my family whenever possible.  Not 'doing church', but sharing a meal, asking her help in the kitchen, training my children and honoring my husband as my head.  

I would encourage her as Titus 2:4-5 instructs us to:

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That they may teach the young women to be sober, to love their husbands, to love their children,
[To be] discreet, chaste, keepers at home, good, obedient to their own husbands, that the word of God be not blasphemed.  

But mostly I would just live out my life as faithfully as possible before her (and anybody else who happens to be looking).  And I would pray for her.  

Remember, most fruit trees bear very little fruit for the first several years.  The fruit is small and would be considered inferior to the fruit that is produced by the older more mature trees.  It takes some years of nurturing and pruning to create a strong, mature and productive fruit tree.      
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« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2010, 03:08:55 PM »

D and L: You are so right-on with your advice here. Smiley I do have the CTBHHM book and I am going to see if she wants it. Smiley
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