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Free Woman
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« on: January 16, 2010, 03:29:10 PM »
I have a 10 year old daughter who is need of a challenge.  Up to now, she has had very little grammar.  She has about a 1st or 2nd grade level.  Both she and I feel she is ready for real, concentrated work.  She is a visual learner who prefers to learn independently.  She also is Very strong in reading, writing and spelling.  She loves to write.  but her lack of grammar is showing.  Today both her and her sister were adamant that they wanted to "catch up" and be able to do the level of work other kids do in public school.  They are more than ready for this and dh is an academic acheiver himself and has been disappointed that they don't know certain things yet.  Having said all this, I wanted to know everyone's opinion about a curriculum that would work for her.  I am leaning toward Rod and Staff because it is more independent but am also considering Shurley English because a friend highly reccomended it.  I think my dd would become frustrated having to wait for me to work with her because Shurley English is scripted and requires more teacher interaction.  We are running into that problem right now with Language Lessons for the well trained mind.  She wants to move at her own pace.  She is doing Math-u-see and even though math is weaker for her, she still does it mostly on her own and asks questions if she gets stuck.  Is there any recommendations out there?
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herbalmom
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« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2010, 05:36:15 PM »
Easy Grammar & Daily Grams are both intended to be used independently. You can easily have your DDs go through more than 1 worksheet per day so they cover it faster. They may not look as intensive as some other programs but they are very effective.

http://www.easygrammar.com/index2.html

HTH Blessings ~herbalmom
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Mrs. B
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« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2010, 02:56:54 AM »
We use Rod and Staff for grammar and while it isn't a scripted program, it does seem to me that it might be difficult to use independently.  We are finishing up the 6th grade book and have used it since 3rd grade, and this is generally one of the subjects that I still 'teach'.   
At this point my dd reads the chapter in R&S and then we discuss it, do the class practice together and then she does the worksheet, if there is one.
Grammar essentially doesn't change from grade to grade, it just becomes more in-depth.  If you really want to use R&S then I would probably start with the 3rd grade level and see how they do with it.  That way they can learn the parts of speech and diagramming.  If they do great with this then maybe skip a grade and advance more quickly.
We also started with the First Language lessons for the WTM 1st and 2nd grade levels.  I let my dd go at her own pace with this book as she 'got it'.  My son has gone more on grade level with it though.
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ladyhen
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« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2010, 07:04:40 AM »
Just can't praise  School of Tomorrow highly enough.  We've been using it for 19 yrs.   It's great for independent work.  Each level builds a foundation for the next level. (Biblical principle, "line upon line, precept upon precept") 

There are many options for using it and they have free diagnostic testing available. 

School of Tomorrow
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rainygladness
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« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2010, 10:40:12 AM »
We've recently started using Susan Wise Bauer's "Writing With Ease - Strong Fundamentals" and it's been WONDERFUL.  I would have loved to have had it sooner.  My favorite thing about it is that it's so simple!  I love simple!  Cheesy

The basic idea is that ALL of the elements of language work together- reading, writing, grammar, spelling.  It uses copywork (so the child has a model for sentences composed of correct spelling, grammar and sentence structure), narration and dictataion.
Our kids are just loving it.  Each lesson is so quick and fun that we all look forward to them.
 
Although it doesn't directly teach grammar alone, it does incorporate it, rather seamlessly, into each lesson.  When the child does the copywork, the author emphasizes the importance of calmly pointing out that names are capitalized, or if they need to correct a misspelled word, periods, capitals, commas, etc.  They begin to understand how grammar works one sentence at a time within the context of interesting stories (the copywork is taken from the story narrated.) 

There are workbooks that have each level/year entirely done for you, too if you're looking for a more self taught approach. I personally enjoy the interaction and involvment that the fundamentals book gives and the lessons are SO short that it's no biggie. For us it only takes about 15 minutes a day or less.

Once the basic fundamentals are mastered it will lay the framework for higher grammar later on.  So far, I've found this simple program to be such a smooth process toward that end.
 Highly recommended.  Smiley
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Free Woman
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« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2010, 12:37:50 PM »
Quote from: ladyhen on January 17, 2010, 07:04:40 AM
Just can't praise  School of Tomorrow highly enough.  We've been using it for 19 yrs.   It's great for independent work.  Each level builds a foundation for the next level. (Biblical principle, "line upon line, precept upon precept") 

There are many options for using it and they have free diagnostic testing available. 

School of Tomorrow

Does SOT teach diagramming?

I was in an ACE school from k-5th grade and again my senior year but can't remember doing any diagramming maybe it started in 6th.

We used 1 set of Paces once for Word Building and DD actually really liked them, like I said, she loves written work.  I will definately think about it.  My mom is a teacher at an ACE school, so I may ask her, too. 

For those of you who don't know ACE is the old name for School of  Tommorow.
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Free Woman
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« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2010, 08:46:29 PM »
Quote from: Free Woman on January 18, 2010, 12:37:50 PM
Quote from: ladyhen on January 17, 2010, 07:04:40 AM
Just can't praise  School of Tomorrow highly enough.  We've been using it for 19 yrs.   It's great for independent work.  Each level builds a foundation for the next level. (Biblical principle, "line upon line, precept upon precept") 

There are many options for using it and they have free diagnostic testing available. 

School of Tomorrow

Does SOT teach diagramming?

I was in an ACE school from k-5th grade and again my senior year but can't remember doing any diagramming maybe it started in 6th.

We used 1 set of Paces once for Word Building and DD actually really liked them, like I said, she loves written work.  I will definately think about it.  My mom is a teacher at an ACE school, so I may ask her, too. 



For those of you who don't know ACE is the old name for School of  Tommorow.



Found out they do teach diagramming.  Thanks for all your suggestions.  I will consider them all.
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In Christ
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« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2010, 10:12:36 AM »
Rod and Staff teaches diagraming too....it's very in depth IMO.  I have Easy Grammar also, but it doesn't seem to teach with the WHOLE language...it's more for us, just little building blocks so in Writing and other subjects he'll be familiar with the parts of speech and such, but there's no WRITING in the 3/4 or the 5/6  books that I can tell or remember. 
EIW (Excellence in Writing) is good and we are using that.  Plus I found a book:  Learning through Language Arts at the used bookstore and I think it might be a GOOD help too....We'll be doing more dictation....I'll just have to not focus on Spelling since ds has Dyslexia, but let that go in the other subjects...as with Dyslexia, they must learn Spelling with PHONICS and in a very specific order...so he will get a lot of Grammar with that too, our tutoring for dyslexia teaches a lot of grammar (the simple stuff).   Tutoring is taught completely by the parents, you just NEVER teach your own child during it and never use 'their' material at home Wink

HTH.
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Homeschool_Newbie
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« Reply #8 on: January 24, 2010, 02:27:41 PM »
A dear friend of mine raves about " Simply Grammar". I have never seen it for myself....

GL and God bless you Smiley
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leslieincali
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« Reply #9 on: March 11, 2010, 01:29:35 PM »
We LOVE Shurley. It does require the parent, but doesn't really take long.(20 minutes?)

After she gets the routine, there is stuff that she can get done without you. There is sentence classifying at the beginning of each lesson. This can be done alone once she "gets" it. There is vocabulary at the end of about every other lesson. She can do that alone, ahead of you too. I skip over the writing assignments, becasue we use the Institute for Excellence in Writing. The curriculum comes with CD's with all the jingles to help memorize the parts of speech. She can listen to those alone too. I have tried quite a few different things and will never use anything else!
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Deb
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« Reply #10 on: March 11, 2010, 03:28:43 PM »
We use Primary Language Lessons and Intermediate Language Lessons by Emma Searle. These 2 books take them all the way through 6th grade. You can see sample lesson pages on Amazon. We do have Simply Grammer also to use if they need more work. These books are a mostly Charlotte Mason type curriculum. Queen Homeschool.com  has a series of worktexts "Language Lessons" series that are fantastic and basically the same as what we use, we just can't afford them at this time, they are 22.95 each workbook(x4for us!). You could use the workbook with a notebook and so be able to use it again though.
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Homeschool_Newbie
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« Reply #11 on: March 14, 2010, 08:21:50 PM »
I like Queen Homeschool as well. Smiley I have been using it for 2-3 years with my oldest...  Gentle learning , Charlotte Mason style describes it well. Smiley I like the artwork too, it has made him think. Wink

I don't know if this question needs another thread, but when should children start spelling and grammar work? My 2nd born is in the first grade...
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