7 x Sunday

February 08, 2012, 03:50:58 PM
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?

Login with username, password and session length
*
Pages: [1]
  Print  
Author Topic: Learning and teaching history and politics--several questions  (Read 736 times)
MomOf8
Adept

Posts: 135


« on: August 21, 2010, 11:26:27 AM »


How can you figure out what you believe about history as well as where you stand politically these days?

For history,  I hear about reading primary sources, but aren't they still biased?

How can you tell whether a person's quotes/beliefs are taken out of context by someone trying to spin his own agenda?

Also, I was reading a certain political figure's list of favorite presidents.  I was confused about one of his choices.  After researching different views and opinions on the particular president, I was even more confused. 

One source may say that a person was a great Christian, but another source has quotes or articles stating otherwise.

Sorry for so many questions.  Any suggestions would be great, thanks.



Logged
Cherika Four Seasons
Adept

Posts: 218


imagine-nations......


« Reply #1 on: August 22, 2010, 05:26:10 PM »


Quote
  How can you figure out what you believe about history as well as where you stand politically these days?

Well, you can make a value judgement about everything. I do, but I also try to remember that my views will change as I learn more. Just keep reading, thinking, discussing and debating. If it's a secondary source, find out who paid for it, who they wrote it for, and what their agenda was.

Quote
For history,  I hear about reading primary sources, but aren't they still biased?   
Definitely! But if you can figure out where there bias lies, you can make some pretty safe assumptions. Thucydides writes some very informative stuff about the Persian and Peloponnese wars, but being Greek, it's a given that there will be some bias in favour of his home country. There's nothing you can do about this, except, if possible, find sources from another perspective, and then compare. Remember too, that a primary source is considered valid if another separate primary source corroborates it. If you can find three primary sources of different origins backing up the same info, then you're probably onto something good.

Just because a source is biased, does not mean it isn't useful. Josephus wrote about Jesus' crucifixion from a non-believing perspective (if I remember rightly) but what he wrote still provides valuable insights into what may have been a popular Jewish stance at the time.
We know his opinion is false, but we can still  learn something from what he wrote.

Quote
How can you tell whether a person's quotes/beliefs are taken out of context by someone trying to spin his own agenda? 
If you really want to know, it might take a lot of digging. Sometimes it's clear, but other times, you will just need to keep searching if you really want to know for sure. You can get lost in that stuff!

Quote
  One source may say that a person was a great Christian, but another source has quotes or articles stating otherwise. 
Look at their actions and what the consequences were. Still, you may never know for sure, and it's probably not important (for you!) whether they were or not.

I think the question is how determined are you to find out the truth about something? How important is it to you and your family?
Archeologists/historians/history buffs can devote their whole lives to that stuff and still draw blanks. Some things we will just never know.
It is fun and good to find out more than the average history book wants to tell you, but I wouldn't sleep over wondering whether or not st.Augustine was a genuine convert or not.
And it's awesome for your opinion and understanding of things to change over time. Nothing wrong with that  Wink

Hope that helps !
« Last Edit: August 22, 2010, 05:27:46 PM by Cherika Four Seasons » Logged

two are better than one
www.allaboutlife.com.au
MomOf8
Adept

Posts: 135


« Reply #2 on: August 23, 2010, 07:09:09 AM »

Yes, that does help.  Thank you  Wink  Smiley 
Logged
Skydancesmom
Adept

Posts: 153



« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2011, 08:38:10 PM »

    We have just started talking about slavery here!  Whoo!  This has been hard but even though this sounds simple, I always ask the children "Why might this person have felt this way?" in terms of slavery we are reading about the African slaves, and then we will read about the farmers that used slaves and at each point asking "How do you think the slaves felt?  Were they scared?  would you have been scared?" or perhaps "Why would the farmers steal people? Is that what they thought they were doing?  Do you think some people thought this was wrong?" I know this sounds so simple, but it really gets me thinking.  Maybe reading all sorts of information (of course that you have pre-read, or DH has) and then asking where the perception of that person may have come from.  We did a lot of that when we were reading about Squanto.  DH worked with an Indian tribe in Northern Alaska for a while, and he helped me figure out what "we" bvelieved about native Americans!  This helps too!
    I guess in short (or long!!) this teaches your children to read in the same way YOU do!  And also to be able to think about where someone else is coming from, where their TRUTH is coming from.
There is only one absolute truth, the Lord, the Bible! Everything else is just opinion really!
SDM 
Logged
MomOf8
Adept

Posts: 135


« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2011, 08:59:40 PM »

Thank you!  Skydancesmom, that is so neat about your dh  Smiley
Logged
Pages: [1]
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

User

Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?

February 08, 2012, 03:50:58 PM

Login with username, password and session length

Stats

Members
Stats
  • Total Posts: 243886
  • Total Topics: 21906
  • Online Today: 37
  • Online Ever: 437
  • (April 01, 2008, 03:09:36 PM)
Users Online
  • Users: 0
  • Guests: 28
  • Total: 28
TinyPortal v.1.0.6 beta 2 © Bloc