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[Titus2:3wife]

I already have a set feeling/ biblically led view of this, but wondered what other scriptures anyone might have on this.  What is the boundary between truly God led music and modern music of man?  When I first got saved, I stopped listening to my alternative music and country music.  It was obvious that the lyrics didn't coincide with a believer's heart. 
Then, as the years passed, listening to the "beat" and rhythms of so called "Christian Music" made me kind of queasy.  I never knew how to explain that feeling, but had it.
Then, years later, I was reading a Chick Publications comic and it had a situation where a missionary was playing some "praise and worship" music and the African natives were terribly upset at what they were hearing.  The natives explained to the missionary that those were the same beats and sounds that they made when they engaged in their demonic worship.
So, I did a little research on the history of the drum.  I did it using the Bible and some history notes.  As far as my research goes, there is no actual "drum" in the bible(instrument beat with sticks).  There was only tambret and timbrels and the like; which were likened unto a cymbal and tambourine.  But no drums.  Then, I found out that the actual drum(bass and snare) that are in use today were invented by the Druids.  They would use the beats as they performed their demonic sacrifices, etc. 
I am not here to condemn anyone's taste in music.  I just want to know, biblically, if there is anything else that will back what I have found. 
Personally, I have a few Contemporary Christian music songs that I like, but the majority of the stuff that sets my soul at ease is  classical and music like From the Ends of the Earth.  All other music seems to upset my insides.  That is the only way I can describe it.  Let me know if anyone has anything on this.

[AndysDad]

Drums are very much associated with demon worship all over the world. Yet, in the same countries Christians use those same drums for their church services. The difference is that in demon worship & dancing, the drumbeat is everything--heavy, rapid, constant, whipping up a frenzy. Once sanctified for Christian use, it is only as a backdrop to beautiful singing. In fact, if it ever became a hindrance they could easily do without it.

[KansasGuy]

Music was such a struggle for me when I was younger.  During my teen years, I heard so many different things that I just wanted somebody to tell me which thing was the right answer.  I have to confess that I wanted someone to tell me that Christian rock n roll was okay, because at that point in my life I didn't know if I could give it up.  I was very much into it.  I went to the concerts.  I watched the awards shows to see who was the Artist of the Year.  I bought the tapes (no CDs yet).  I watched the music videos.  It really consumed me for some time.

Several things happened since then that helped me come to a decision.  Some are from Scripture, and some are not.  When I was in college (I went to Bob Jones University which is very much against Christian rock n roll music), we had a special speaker was invited to speak in chapel on music.  He asked a simple question, how would Christ feel about the music you are listening to if He were sitting right next to you?  I can honestly say that this question was one I had heard many times, so it really didn't have an impact on me at this point which disappointed me.  However, I couldn't help but wonder if there was a point to this question since I had heard it so many times.  I had also heard a special speaker somewhere say that it was basically okay to listen to any kind of music (Christian or secular) depending on how you were feeling that day.  I didn't accept that because if God has specific standards for my life, why would He leave out any for music.  I kept searching.  Then something very simple happened.  I saw two posters side by side.  One was a poster for a secular rock n roll band, and the other was for a Christian rock n roll band.  I look at them and realized something about the posters.  I didn't know one of them was a Christian rock n roll band--that is until I read it on the poster.  I couldn't tell the difference at all until reading it.  I had found my answer, although it took me some time to realize it and do something about it.  I came to realize that 2Cor 6:16-17 really had something to say about music or at least what I was making music in my life. 

I was doing exactly the same thing that people I knew were doing with secular music.  I realized that the outward appearance of the band looked the same as its secular counterpart.  I realized they did the same things--sold albums, had music videos, dressed similarly, had awards shows on TV and thanked God for their award much like the secular artists would do.  They would claim that it was okay for Christians to be sexy, or that their goal was to "show the world that Christians can have fun too."  I found myself asking a simple question--What is the difference?  They both look similar, sound similar, act similar, talk similar.  The only difference was that their song lyrics contained Jesus or references to Christianity.  I also wondered who else was asking this question and were they saved or unsaved.  What kind of testimony did I have as a result of my obsession with Christian rock n roll music?  Then I realized that if I were to truly be separate as 2Cor 6:17 says, I would have to give up this music and separate myself from all that goes with it.  I didn't like the prospect of that, because I liked how the music made me feel.  It was cool.  I could be like unsaved kids with their rock n roll, but I could also have Christianity too.  It was perfect--right?? 

Music, specifically Christian Rock n Roll, had become an idol in my life.  I didn't even realize it.  I would debate the issue of whether or not it was right or wrong with those in authority over me.  I would waste hours just lying around listening to it.  I was a pathetic lemming repeating lyrics and espousing the lifestyles of the "artists" that I was listening to desiring to be like them and sing like them.  Finally, I started throwing things away.  I asked God to help me, because I knew it would be hard.  He delivered me from it.  I've never gone back, and I've never missed it.  Praise be to God.

Part of my struggle with music was that I was looking for a "Thou shalt not listen to Christian rock n roll." verse in the Bible, and when I didn't find it I assumed it was okay.  However, the answers were there in front of me.  I just didn't want them.  That was my mistake.  I justified my ignoring of the truth by telling myself that it didn't apply to music even though it applied to other areas of my life.  When people ask me where I go in the Bible to discuss the issue of music, I point them to the passages below. 

These passages gave me a standard to use for music:
1 John 2:15-17: music must not be part of the world (lust of the flesh, lust of the eyes, pride of life)
2 Cor 6:16-17: music should not become an idol
1 Cor 8:13: actually the whole chapter is a great example of what my attitude toward not just music but all things should be--I must be willing to give it up permanently in order to prevent a weaker brother from stumbling--in the context of music, if someone is weak in the area of music, give up any kind of music that might cause him/her to stumble.
Eph 5:19-20: the focus of music should be God in a spirit of thankfulness.
Psalm 37:4: delight yourself in God, and He will give you His desires--even for music.

I realize this hasn't been much of a Bible study, but these passages were answers to all of my questions about music.  Sorry this post is so long. 

--KansasGuy 



     

[stobaugh6]

I kind of think a drum is just a drum. It all depends on who it is yielded to(Rom 6:19). I will say however that some of the stuff I hear on Christian radio these days is just barely Christian. If there is such a thing?

        Tom Stobaugh

[Gabriel Anast]

I have read more books, papers, theories and information on the moral, physical, psychological, and spiritual qualities of music, poetry, tone sequences, rhythmic patterns... you name it... than I can remember. However... I have yet to read an actual study from the Bible about the nature of music. Don't misunderstand me... I have read *all* the religious books on the subject... and generally I have found them to be the most un-informational... and largely absent of Bible study.

I would love to hear a Bible study on music.... Anyone out there want to tackle this? I would certainly comment and read with interest!

For what its worth, I think one of the most wonderful natural "musics" is the beating of a heart. When I was younger I used to do a lot of physical training. I got to know the "measure of my heart" if that makes sense... I got to know when I had reached peak output during a run, I could feel that moment when after stretching for a bit and doing some light jogging my heart wanted to drive ahead into "full bore" output. I remember first thinking about this in relation to talking to my wife to be... and thinking that my heart's response was "funny." Why did it do that? Why now?

So, I think the heart is a type of drum... and I love the rhythmicity of it... the infinite variability. I don't think I would have been aware of it had my dad not opened the door to running and physical exertion for me in junior high and high school... but I had that opportunity and am very grateful for it.

I love "From the Ends of the Earth" as well but I also really love Tree63... and they use drums. Of course this is not a Bible study... I would be very interested if some man among us would do a music Bible study...

--gabe

[SC lady]

I've sat and listened to well orchestrated music that was very impressive. It made me admire the composer and the musicians and their abilities. I've listened to music that made me remember both good and bad times in my life. I've enjoyed music that made me laugh or cry as I identified with the music/lyrics.

But my FAVORITE music is that which causes me to bask in His presence. And nothing that smells of this world can do that for me. You can tell a lot about music by who it makes uncomfortable and who is drawn to it.

[Titus2:3wife]

Here is a site that I found some musical history on: http://www.rakkav.com/kdhinc/pages/instruments.htm  This is the website I used last year when I did this study. 
This isn't any biblical discussions on styles of music, rather, a history of music instruments during biblical times.  I would love for a few men to find what they could on this, too, but understand that there really isn't a whole lot of clear scriptures.  It seems more like individual preference.  I, too, know that if I hear music with an upbeat drum, it does something to me that I don't care for.  I, personally, cannot listen to that type of music.  It was prevalent in my past and perhaps is what I need to do for myself to keep my conscience pure.  Maybe others can listen to "Christian" rock(sounds like an oxymoron) and not have the same effect as I do.  Thanks for everyone's input on this question.

[Titus2:3wife]

How can Christian rock be an oxymoron when Jesus built His church on the rock?

Hee hee, I get it.  Okay, I should have said Christian rock n roll music.   

[SC lady]

I heard an interesting take on this subject. The speaker said that if it could be substituted as background music for a place of ill repute, then it wasn't worth listening to. On the other hand, a rousing chorus of your favorite hymn is usually enough to bring much poor behavior to a stop. That which makes the enemy squirm in discomfort will bring God glory. 

[Forever Girl]

Thanks for the Scriptures and the testimony, Kansas Guy!

I read somewhere that many of our hymns are tunes from old Irish/English drinking songs, thus the rousing, "joyful", unity of the choruses. Many others were Catholic chants/songs. Others are shortened pieces of classical music. And still others were written, song and words, by a believer who was writing about their relationship/knowledge of God.  I've always found it interesting to know who wrote the song I'm singing, and in what "spirit" they wrote/played/sang it.

Last night I heard Pachebels Cannon in D played on an electric guitar by a modern teenager and it was positively disturbing 

I LOVE Handel's Messiah! I also love Tree63's Blessed Be the Name of the Lord! However, my favorite music is the "new" song, written and sung by someone I know (or not) about their love and relationship with Christ. I love to hear that fresh, new song.

And lastly, and possibly utterly useless to the discussion , on the subject of drums, I had this dream a couple of years ago:

8/01/03 -  I dreamed I was standing on a flat plain that stretched as far as I could see in every direction. The surface beneath my feet was glass. Lightening shot through it occasionally causing rainbows to appear through the mist that lightly covered it. In the distance I heard the sound of drums approaching. Thousands of drums of different kinds, beating different patterns, all the same strong beat.

  It was terrifying - the sound of so many drums playing together, heralding something. I saw some of the drummers too, but I can’t remember them clearly; I think because I couldn’t understand them.

They were heavenly beings; but I wouldn’t call them angels either. They were creatures created by God to worship Him by beating their drums. The most amazing thing about them was that the creatures themselves WERE drums. Their bodies were made for that purpose. Their “arms” beat at their enormous torsos and their feet stomped, and their mouths made rythmic sounds that accomplished an amazing effect. I don’t remember all of them, and it seems like there were differences. There were so many - a multitude. They were heralding the coming of an event. I was afraid and elated as well. So glad to be on their side! If the drummer boys are that impressive - what is the actual army like?
 
I awoke and turned to Gabe. “You should see how many drums there are!” I told him with wide eyes. My expression scared him too. I went back to sleep and never remembered that episode (of waking and speaking to Gabe) in the morning. Perhaps I never fully awoke. I wish I could remember the dream more clearly. It was the most amazing thing I’ve ever seen.

[Titus2:3wife]

Thanks Kansas Guy.  Those were my exact feelings, too.  I appreciate the humble testimony.  Beeyoufiful(formerly known as happy lady   you have some intense dreams!!  I thought mine we weird.  I do believe that the heavens have drum- like instruments.  I know that certain beat keeping instruments are biblical.  Just didn't know where to draw the line in my own heart.  Now, I have peace on this.  Thanks everyone for your input.

[Journeyman]

Kansas Guy has the best answer I have ever heard given to the Christian rock and or roll question.  Great testimony KG.  When I listen to Christian R n R I noticed it was just like the world's version  of music.  Hard to be a light when it looks  and acts  just like the lost.  The CCM is and will stay out the door.

[bowhunter]

Ditto.  Couldn't agree with you more, Kansas Guy.  But then I was never been able to stand most rock music, even before I came to the Lord.   I watched a 6 hour + documentary (On Sky Angel TV) on the history of rock music.  I would consider it a MUST SEE for any believer who has not yet given up such music, or for that matter, anyone who is witnessing or guiding new believers.  You can find it at Fight the Goodfight Ministries www.goodfight.org/ and it is entitled "They Sold Their Souls for Rock and Roll'   The information contained within is, to say the least, astounding.   I was amazed at how much satanic influence/humanism plays a roll in the music (not just the words, but the beat, as well.  And it's not just in the hard stuff.  It's in a lot of the soft rock/pop and oldies that a lot of people, even Christians, believe to be harmless.

My heart is grieved everytime I see these "Christian" bands.  Even at our church, which is fairly conservative, they (Christian R&R musicians) occasionally play a special or take the stage when the regular praise and worship singers are given a Sunday off.  And the sad thing is, if I didn't know I was in church, it would take me quite a while to figure it out by the music and the appearance of the musicians.     

But here's another question for you to ponder:  What about country music?  Without question, much of it is not worth listening to and by no means is edifying to a believer.  However, a fair number of artists' music promote values in alignment with the Christian tradition, patriotism, and the like.

In my opinion, there is nothing wrong with the more traditional style country music (in reference to the instrumental part of the style only), because the beat/style is, for the most part universal.   As far as I know, most of the writers are not humanists/satanic, and many were/are/claim to be Christians.  Also, from what I know, most country style music has it's roots in southern gospel/bluegrass style music.

In conclusion, here are the questions I'd like some input on:  Is it OK to enjoy a country song now and then (If the music aligns with Biblical values?  What are your thoughts on the matter?

[bigpoppa]

I don't believe drums are evil. Can they be used for evil? Sure. Most anything can be used for evil. Sometimes I can listen to a song on the radio by a secular group and it makes me happy. Does the song contain sexual or perverse lyrics? No. Is it full of anger, hatred or darkness. No. If I start to feel convicted by the Holy Spirit will I turn it off? Absolutely.

I guess what I am trying to say is that it is so easy to make a "law" out of anything. We could say "all country music is bad" or "all hymns are good", but there are bound to be exceptions. We all need to get to the place in our walks where we can be lead by the Holy Spirit in each specific situation. What is so great about being led by the Spirit and not being under the Law is that we don't have to live in fear, worrying about what is going to happen next time we get into a certain situation, but we can rest in Him knowing that He will show us what is right when the situation gets here.

[joyofthelord]

I've been wondering about this for so long.  What is everyones opinion on country music?  And if you sing
praise and worship in church for the Lord, is it okay to also sing County?  To me, it doesn't give praise and honor to the Lord, so is it okay?

[SONBEAM]

Maybe one's opinion of Rock and Roll is what differs.  Bands like Third Day are very Christ oriented.  They may look like normal people but Christ lives through them and their message.  As an afterthought, what exactly does a Christian look like.  Anyhow, some might not consider Third Day to be rock and roll.  I guess the term Contemporary Christian Music may be more appropriate.  Then there are bands like Demon Hunter.  Their message is Christian, but you have to wade through speed metal riffs, double bass runs, and the roaring growl of the vocalist to even get close enough to decipher it.  I believe that people's personal preferences play a greater role as to what type of music they find edifying to the Lord.  I have listened to every type of music, (except country), in my secular past.  I find that my kids especially like the Contemporary Christian Music station.  If they are singing praises to the Lord, I would be hard pressed to believe that God would not enjoy hearing them sing, simply because it isn't a "classic" hymn.  I am pretty sure that David didn't dance wildly to Old Rugged Cross.

Sonbeam's Husband

[arkitektonika]

   I don't know where else to post this but I've been blessed with the kind of music from this web site, please take time to visit and tell me what you think.  You can listen to sample MP3 for about 90 seconds each.  My favorites (Grace; I Know a Fount; Almighty Unchangeable God, Holy Is HE)  so far are from this album    I hope it'll be a blessing to you too

http://www.oldchristianmusic.com/mproductpages/northland-bible-baptist-college--northland-reflections.html

[BJ_BOBBI_JO]

So, I did a little research on the history of the drum.  I did it using the Bible and some history notes.  As far as my research goes, there is no actual "drum" in the bible(instrument beat with sticks).  There was only tambret and timbrels and the like; which were likened unto a cymbal and tambourine.  But no drums.  Then, I found out that the actual drum(bass and snare) that are in use today were invented by the Druids.  They would use the beats as they performed their demonic sacrifices, etc. 

I figure anyone can use any  instrument   for good or bad. TV , movies and old pictures portray the 1960s drug infested hippies as standing around in a drunk or drugged up stupor with a   tambourine in their hands. But that does not mean just because everyone who uses a tambourine is doing it to honor the 1960s druggie party fest faze.

I don't believe drums are evil. Can they be used for evil? Sure. Most anything can be used for evil. Sometimes I can listen to a song on the radio by a secular group and it makes me happy. Does the song contain sexual or perverse lyrics? No. Is it full of anger, hatred or darkness. No. If I start to feel convicted by the Holy Spirit will I turn it off? Absolutely.

I guess what I am trying to say is that it is so easy to make a "law" out of anything. We could say "all country music is bad" or "all hymns are good", but there are bound to be exceptions. We all need to get to the place in our walks where we can be lead by the Holy Spirit in each specific situation. What is so great about being led by the Spirit and not being under the Law is that we don't have to live in fear, worrying about what is going to happen next time we get into a certain situation, but we can rest in Him knowing that He will show us what is right when the situation gets here.

I agree 100% free.from.sin


I personally like the sound of drums. Especially the drum sounds at my local non-pagan pow wow.
 I find that I mentally keep up with the drum beat where as slower non drum beat music bores me and is way to slow for my thinking style. I can consentrate better with drum beats.

I love listening to the oldies. I have records of music I still  listen to dating back to the 1920s. I also love some of the newer older music like 50s, 60s, 70s,  and 80s. But as the decades come and go I have notice more sexual or other bad stuff in the music. I will get to personally feeling convicted if I leave the radio on while a song like that comes on. I just can not listen to Madonna, her music is good and catchy but something about it does not set well with my soul. There is some other music I feel the same about as well.

But I would rather have the fast paced drum beating music any day over church hymes and that popular Christian music on the radio. It all sounds alike to me. It is pretty but not for me.

Some fast paced electric guitar and drums are what I enjoy as long as it is not from one of those drug infested groups. But I can enjoy a wide  range of stuff like zydeco, jazz, blues, bluegrass, rockabilly. There are many forms of good music. But what sounds the best to my ears is Gods own personal choir---------------> nature( the birds, insects, ect.)

[Helpmeetmom]

In conclusion, here are the questions I'd like some input on:  Is it OK to enjoy a country song now and then (If the music aligns with Biblical values?  What are your thoughts on the matter?
[/quote]

"Stand by your Man", and "You Ain't Woman Enough to Take My Man" are both country songs, and Mrs Pearl used them in her illustration on fighting for your man in the Helpmeet book (don't remember the name of the section). 
     When I used to listen to Country music a lot of it was sweet love-type songs from a man to his wife , (often found out the singer did write it for his wife), or talking about his family or children beautifully.  Many other times it was a depressing song geared toward emotions.  I remember being so depressed or sad when listening to the song of a woman who's man cheated on her or whatever, then some would glorify drinking, cheating on g/f or spouse, rebelling against parents and many other sinful things.  I once heard someone say "You wouldn't dig through a pile of garbage to get to one good sandwich underneath".     Essentially to get a few good songs from country music you would have to listen to a lot of trash as well. 
    Statistically a lot more suicides are of ppl who listen to country than rock (can't back that statement as of yet, has been a while since I read that one).   AS far as the style and sound of country music, IMHO there really isn't anything wrong with it for the most part.   Some country songs are very very honoring to the Lord I have found, but it's so hard to find one. 
     If a person is going to go into the origin of the drums, look up the piano as well.   My hubby said it was first played in a bar.  He has searched and searched for the truth on what music is right, and he has asked many Christian men the same question "What's wrong with Contemporary Christian (oxymoron right) music" just to see what they'd say, and none of them were able to give him a solid  answer backed by scripture.  Almost all of them had a personal experience to share or some reasoning, but it was all seriously lacking in Bible.  I'm not asking for more info on this for our benefit, the Lord shows him what's right for our family.   ANyway, would like to see a good study of  other instruments though. 

[nexis777]

Interesting that you bring that up helpmeetmom, because I was thinking the same exact thing.
I've seen some who site that, because the Bible didn't have guitars, or drums, or or or, then we shouldn't use them... ok? Just because they hadn't been invented yet, doesn't make them evil. Almost across the board, Christians find the piano to be acceptable, but it's not in the Bible... I guess to me, eliminating instruments because they weren't used in Scripture should be followed by, "and we don't use herbs, because they weren't used in the Bible and you should just believe on God to heal you, not try to use a plant." Hopefully that all makes sense.  I just don't see how we can eliminate one thing because it's not scriptural, but take part in other things that are certainly not mentioned scripturally either.

[Mrs. Davis]

Computers are not in scripture and they can be used for evil, and yet, we are all using them!

[BJ_BOBBI_JO]

Computers are not in scripture and they can be used for evil, and yet, we are all using them!

My computer is evil. It has been trying to take over my life. Infact sometimes Im most certain I can hear it doing that ever so still diabolical evil laugh.

Just joking   

[kayinpa]

My oldest sister told me once that she had heard that there are 3 types of songs - Heaven bound songs (songs that give glory and worship to God), Earth Bound songs - usually about life here on earth (like country, oldies etc) and Hell bound songs.

I was having a interesting discussion with my friend recently about what type of music I let my children listen to.  Her daughter has a friend who is from a Christian family and listened to Disney music and did I think that was a good idea to let them to listen to non-Christian music now and when they were say they couldnt.  I told her that I hadnt really thought about it since we dont usually listen to a lot of music (I was always listening to music or singing when before children) and when we do, it is daddy playing his guitar, Praise & Worship CD's.     I told her I would hope to teach my children that what they listen to affects the way they think.  The Bible teaches us that "Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things."  Philippians 4:8     If the music they want to listen to doesnt fall into this category, then they shouldnt listen to it.    I  used to occasionally listen to the country station, but gave it up when Willie Nelson & Toby Keith's song "Whiskey for my men and Beer for my Horses" got stuck into my head.   

Like TV, hammers etc , Musical Instruments are a tool.  They in themselves are neither holy or evil, it is the way that they are used that is good or bad. 


BTW - did you know that Willie Nelson died?  He was hit by a truck because he was playing "On the Road" again!  LOL.  Okay, just couldnt resist.

[Chrissy]

Okay I didn't have time to read all the posts cause I don't have much time, but I wanted to give my take.
To me, CCM is the world's music with "Christian" lyrics. It is a way for people to justify listening to their music by say it's "Christian." Recently there was a person at our church who devoted an entire night at a revival meeting to this subject. He talked about the beats and rythms and such....I'm afraid I don't remember much. He's also written a lot of books on the subject. I'll look for them and post them hear.
As for drums, it's not the drums that are evil. It's the way they are used. As a background in some songs they can be lovely, used to overcome the song not so lovely. Again, it's also the beat they are playing. I wish I could remember all that I learned about that.
Music is highly emotional. The reason I don't believe in drums, electric guitars, and other loud instruments in a "worship" service is because they provoke an emotional response. I know because I have experienced this. People feel good and believe it's because they are "worshipping' God. But, take away all the loud music, get an old fashioned guitar, piano, and or organ and that feeling is gone. Why? Because the feeling was an emotional response to the music, not the worship. Since giving up the "banging" I have learned how awesome a worship service can really be.
I've been to two youth camps. One of them had the drums, guitars, and such. I felt awesome singing the songs. The other had a keyboard in the evenings, nothing during the day. The experience of the second way surpassed that of the first. At the first, I was singing for the music. At the second, I was singing for God. And let me tell you, there is not greater sound than 100+ teenagers singing for God!
My Humble Personal Opinion Publicly Expressed

[Deb]

There is a country song I heard a while back, it was playing on the Goodwill overhead and it caught my ear. I got a great blessing hearing it and thanked God. It was THREE WOODEN CROSSES by Randy Travis. My husband has a few songs written and sung by Paul Overstreet...THERE BUT FOR THE GRACE OF GOD I GO,   SHE SUPPORTS HER MAN,...LOVE HELPS THOSE,    RICHEST MAN ON EARTH,   DIG ANOTHER WELL,    and he has a cd of Jeff and Sheri Easter which is a christian cd but sounds just like the country songs I mentioned. All of them bless me so much , making me think about and praise God. We don't have anything "rock" or loud like that.Good old hymns from the hymnbook and praise songs are favorites.Anyone else heard or have a comment on the songs I mentioned? Wondering how you feel about them?

[Ella]

There is a country song I heard a while back, it was playing on the Goodwill overhead and it caught my ear. I got a great blessing hearing it and thanked God. It was THREE WOODEN CROSSES by Randy Travis. My husband has a few songs written and sung by Paul Overstreet...THERE BUT FOR THE GRACE OF GOD I GO,   SHE SUPPORTS HER MAN,...LOVE HELPS THOSE,    RICHEST MAN ON EARTH,   DIG ANOTHER WELL,    and he has a cd of Jeff and Sheri Easter which is a christian cd but sounds just like the country songs I mentioned. All of them bless me so much , making me think about and praise God. We don't have anything "rock" or loud like that.Good old hymns from the hymnbook and praise songs are favorites.Anyone else heard or have a comment on the songs I mentioned? Wondering how you feel about them?

I used to listen to Jeff and Sheri Easter. I really enjoyed their music. I also like the Three wooden crosses song. Have you heard the one by John Michal Montgomery about the little girl that is hiding behind the couch while her parents are fighting. Later someone takes her to church for the first time and she see's a picture of Jesus on the cross. She say's who is that man? I don't know his name but he was with me the night I hid behind the couch and my parents died. That song makes me cry every time I hear it. I wish I could remember the name of the song. I also enjoy blue grass sounding hymns. My parents had a great tape that was all instrumental bluegrass hymns. We used to sit around and sing for hours all the old hymns and gospel songs. I miss those days!

[HoldingOntoHim]

"The Little Girl" is the title to the song by John Micheal Montgomery.

[Chrissy]

There is a country song I heard a while back, it was playing on the Goodwill overhead and it caught my ear. I got a great blessing hearing it and thanked God. It was THREE WOODEN CROSSES by Randy Travis. My husband has a few songs written and sung by Paul Overstreet...THERE BUT FOR THE GRACE OF GOD I GO,   SHE SUPPORTS HER MAN,...LOVE HELPS THOSE,    RICHEST MAN ON EARTH,   DIG ANOTHER WELL,    and he has a cd of Jeff and Sheri Easter which is a christian cd but sounds just like the country songs I mentioned. All of them bless me so much , making me think about and praise God. We don't have anything "rock" or loud like that.Good old hymns from the hymnbook and praise songs are favorites.Anyone else heard or have a comment on the songs I mentioned? Wondering how you feel about them?

I used to listen to Jeff and Sheri Easter. I really enjoyed their music. I also like the Three wooden crosses song. Have you heard the one by John Michal Montgomery about the little girl that is hiding behind the couch while her parents are fighting. Later someone takes her to church for the first time and she see's a picture of Jesus on the cross. She say's who is that man? I don't know his name but he was with me the night I hid behind the couch and my parents died. That song makes me cry every time I hear it. I wish I could remember the name of the song. I also enjoy blue grass sounding hymns. My parents had a great tape that was all instrumental bluegrass hymns. We used to sit around and sing for hours all the old hymns and gospel songs. I miss those days!

I like a lot of Randy Travis' songs. They have great messages and the music isn't bad either...though it's a far cry from the classical and opera I usually listen too.

[pupu4four]

Music is highly emotional. The reason I don't believe in drums, electric guitars, and other loud instruments in a "worship" service is because they provoke an emotional response. I know because I have experienced this. People feel good and believe it's because they are "worshipping' God. But, take away all the loud music, get an old fashioned guitar, piano, and or organ and that feeling is gone. Why? Because the feeling was an emotional response to the music, not the worship. Since giving up the "banging" I have learned how awesome a worship service can really be.

God is a creative being.  Look at creation and human life and space and all that he has made and you can see his creativity.  God created us in his image.  And part of that is that we are also creative beings.  Whether it be in art, ballet, architecture or music, we are creative.  Modern worship is an expression of creativity.  And this expression of creativity, given to us by God, is used for his glory in churches all over the world whether its traditional hymns or modern worship songs you sing.  Even the composers of hymns back in the day were on the cutting edge for their time.  If someone is only responding to worship because of the emotional response to the sounds they hear, that is a heart issue not a corporate issue.  Personally, the same songs sung in modern worship corporately on a sunday morning will cause the same stirring of the Holy Spirit in me when sung with only a guitar or accapella in a small group setting.  The instrumentation does not matter. 

I do not think this is an issue that needs to be a "one way is right, the other wrong" issue.  Everyone has their tastes, their preferred flavor if you will.  If you do not like modern worship or if it is a stumbling block for you.  That's ok.  Worship where and how you are lead by the lord and are comfortable.  I don't believe God is going to condemn someone with a genuine desire to glorify His Name just because he is worshiping with drums or other modern instruments. 

[nexis777]

Music is highly emotional. The reason I don't believe in drums, electric guitars, and other loud instruments in a "worship" service is because they provoke an emotional response. I know because I have experienced this. People feel good and believe it's because they are "worshipping' God. But, take away all the loud music, get an old fashioned guitar, piano, and or organ and that feeling is gone. Why? Because the feeling was an emotional response to the music, not the worship. Since giving up the "banging" I have learned how awesome a worship service can really be.

God is a creative being.  Look at creation and human life and space and all that he has made and you can see his creativity.  God created us in his image.  And part of that is that we are also creative beings.  Whether it be in art, ballet, architecture or music, we are creative.  Modern worship is an expression of creativity.  And this expression of creativity, given to us by God, is used for his glory in churches all over the world whether its traditional hymns or modern worship songs you sing.  Even the composers of hymns back in the day were on the cutting edge for their time.  If someone is only responding to worship because of the emotional response to the sounds they hear, that is a heart issue not a corporate issue.  Personally, the same songs sung in modern worship corporately on a sunday morning will cause the same stirring of the Holy Spirit in me when sung with only a guitar or accapella in a small group setting.  The instrumentation does not matter. 

I do not think this is an issue that needs to be a "one way is right, the other wrong" issue.  Everyone has their tastes, their preferred flavor if you will.  If you do not like modern worship or if it is a stumbling block for you.  That's ok.  Worship where and how you are lead by the lord and are comfortable.  I don't believe God is going to condemn someone with a genuine desire to glorify His Name just because he is worshiping with drums or other modern instruments. 

Very well put! I would sincerely agree!!!!

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