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Re: Recognizing Evil
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October 20, 2006, 08:25:13 PM »
My wife and I have both been delivered from demonic spirits. Hers was in a very small church (in a barn) with only a few people around, and mine was at home, just her and I. We have also seen others get delivered. It wasn't on a stage somewhere. I was helping to pray (laying hands upon) those people as they were getting delivered. It would last 10 hours sometimes. I saw things I would never have believed if I hadn't been there. If you have any questions, ask away.
As for advice: I have watched many demons flee at the name of Jesus. There is no need for fear. But the more attention you give them, the more obvious they will be. Tell them to go in the name of Jesus and get on with your life.
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Re: Recognizing Evil
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October 20, 2006, 06:03:44 PM »
All I can say is
I do believe that there are those that are demon possessed. I don't know if I would be as scared in that situation. Maybe I would be, who knows. I would be interested in hearing what someone has to say who has experienced "true" demon deliverance. And none of that: "I saw some in a charismatic church once." I have seen it there, too, I don't believe it is anything like what you are talking about, Kristen.
Has your hubby actually talked to this guy, too?
Hope you are not having nightmares, or anything. I would ask hubby to pray protection over you. I think I read about Gabe doing that for Rebekah in a previous post.
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Re: Recognizing Evil
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October 20, 2006, 09:27:27 PM »
Just a comment: I think that sometimes as we grow closer to the Lord, maturing as Christians, we can see the evil around us easier and more often in a more vivid way as you did.
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Re: Recognizing Evil
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October 21, 2006, 07:54:18 AM »
I too have sensed evil in a person. And the eyes are a BIG tip off. Other than that though for me it does tend to just be a feeling. I know enough to know better than to go trying to cast out demons though. I tend to silently pray that God will be able to work in thier lives....pray that the right MAN will talk to them. Two cases that stick out vividly in my mind is one of my hubby's coworkers (and a friend of a friend). DH was not saved at the time and did not understand why I did not want to be near this guy. I later found out that he kept an assault kit in his car and a few other things that makes me shudder to think about. The other person was a crazed man that came in our church right before Wednesday service. He argued with the pastor about something than went out. Than came back in bringing a ventriliuist dummmy! Middle of song service and he walks right up the aisle and proceeds to tell the pastor off! Pastor just remained pleasant and patient, he let and nothing happened from it. He was crazed. A lot of times what I have seen tends to be a spirit of hopelesness. Sometimes it is sheer evil. Sometimes, something is not right. They re nice, pleasant people, but something about them is not right. I don't believe it is my place to do anything but pray, so I pray.
Demonic possesion and oppression is VERY real and personally I believe that the Holy spirit is the one to alert us to something not being right to protect us. I don't know if there is anything in this, but as it is mostly ladies that are sense evil in a person it may be the Holy Ghost protecting us from the harm that person could do to us? Any men have any thoughts on the whole sensing evil thing?
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Re: Recognizing Evil
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October 22, 2006, 07:42:38 AM »
For some reason God had me involved in deliverance for about 4 years. He allowed me to see demons running around and in people. He gave me an overwhelming sense of when someone was possessed. I was used at a church camp one summer to open several people's eyes to the reality of demons and their work. The biggest thing I have found out is that praying for someone who is not a believer is pointless unless you are praying for their salvation. If a non-believer is delivered, the demons just come back later. I saw it several times.
If I can give any advice from all my years of what God showed me is: Do not fear! Demons run like scared little girls from someone who knows who they are in Christ and are telling them to go in Jesus' name. I literally saw in the spirit one time what happens to them when you command them to go in Jesus' name. It is as if literal tangible power comes out of your mouth and smashes them like a missle hitting an enemy army. They are scattered and they run away very quickly. This may seem bizarre, but imagine seeing it happen with your own eyes.
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Re: Recognizing Evil
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October 22, 2006, 04:08:26 PM »
I have never sensed strong evil that I can think of, but I do get feelings of "warning", telling me to watch out about a person. However, on the opposite end of the scale, there are some people who I seem to get a strong sense of affirmation about. As if I am being told that God approves of that person. I mean it is something not of myself, and totally different than liking or admiring someone. I can't really explain it, but as soon as I meet those people it just hits me. Wierd, huh? Doesn't happen all the time, of course, some of my dearest friends I have never had that feeling about. But maybe they didn't qualify!
Anyway, I have had several people mention that they can sense evil, but no one has ever mentioned sensing "good" to me. (I've never mentioned it to anyone before though).
Free.from.sin, that is really fascinating. I have been wondering recently how to tell the difference between someone who has a demon, and someone who is "mentally ill"? Is that just a gift one would have to have from the Lord? Or is it something we can tell?
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October 22, 2006, 04:44:14 PM »
He just sounds RUDE, to me.
Dh has a policy, I think is funny, but good.
"I don't do business with dirtbags."
I had just read a scripture today, I think in 1 john, that says
evil can not touch us
, as believers! I could search that out in my notes, if you like. I had to read it a few times, and my pastor even said, 'isnt' that amazing?' We've been studying Rom. 5 & 6. It is all Jesus, you know. If you belong to Him, the reign of sin cannot touch you.
It can holler over the fence at ya
, but you do not need to answer, lol! There is the reign of sin (Adam) and the reign of the new Man, (Christ). If you are IN Him, you are under HIS reign
YESSSSS!
I believe you may be experiencing spiritual discernment, by 'feeling' something. I'd trust it, personally. You were wise to bring a friend.
Quote from: Kristen on October 20, 2006, 05:33:31 PM
The realtor was waiting outside and I over heard him saying some strange things on the phone (with an even stranger tone of voice)......
"I have been tryyiiiinng to get in touch with you.... whaaat iss the problem?" he hissed.
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Re: Recognizing Evil
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Quote from: servantgirl on October 22, 2006, 04:08:26 PM
Free.from.sin, that is really fascinating. I have been wondering recently how to tell the difference between someone who has a demon, and someone who is "mentally ill"? Is that just a gift one would have to have from the Lord? Or is it something we can tell?
I worked in a group home once with the mentally retarded. There was this young guy (22?) who was very big and very strong. He had hurt several of the workers. They said it was like he would go into a trance and get violent. He would smash things at first then start to hit the girls. They couldn't stop him until he was finished with his rampage.
One night we were at another group home for thanksgiving and he got this blank look in his eyes. He started to smash things at the table, so I went over to him, grabbed ahold of him and whispered in his ear: In the name of Jesus, I rebuke you and command you to go! After a couple of seconds he "snapped out of it" and looked around as if he had no idea of what just happened. You could literally see something let go of him and leave. These kind of things happened alot with the mentally retarded.
My friend Sara and I actually got investigated by the State for praying over our patients. They treated us like we were some kind of freaks. The lead investigator asked us if we lit candles and walked around the houses chanting.
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Re: Recognizing Evil
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There is POWER in that Name! Great testimony
Quote from: free.from.sin. on October 22, 2006, 05:15:40 PM
Quote from: servantgirl on October 22, 2006, 04:08:26 PM
Free.from.sin, that is really fascinating. I have been wondering recently how to tell the difference between someone who has a demon, and someone who is "mentally ill"? Is that just a gift one would have to have from the Lord? Or is it something we can tell?
I worked in a group home once with the mentally retarded. There was this young guy (22?) who was very big and very strong. He had hurt several of the workers. They said it was like he would go into a trance and get violent. He would smash things at first then start to hit the girls. They couldn't stop him until he was finished with his rampage.
One night we were at another group home for thanksgiving and he got this blank look in his eyes. He started to smash things at the table, so I went over to him, grabbed ahold of him and whispered in his ear: In the name of Jesus, I rebuke you and command you to go! After a couple of seconds he "snapped out of it" and looked around as if he had no idea of what just happened. You could literally see something let go of him and leave. These kind of things happened alot with the mentally retarded.
My friend Sara and I actually got investigated by the State for praying over our patients. They treated us like we were some kind of freaks. The lead investigator asked us if we lit candles and walked around the houses chanting.
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Re: Recognizing Evil
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October 26, 2006, 05:25:11 PM »
Quote from: Kristen on October 23, 2006, 08:27:58 AM
So, what do they look like? I imagine them being tiny, bumpy, nasty, wispy creatures.
I have seen one that looked pretty much like a one foot tall T-Rex dinosaur (walking around the grouphome I worked at). I have seen one that looked like a snake (that one was in my wife). I have seen one that looked like some giant mutant grasshopper (that was in a guy at a hippie festival).
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Re: Recognizing Evil
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October 28, 2006, 06:47:49 AM »
For me, evil often looks like a "reasonable" suggestion, an "understandable" decision. Each time I am tempted to step outside of faith in Jesus Christ for something that "makes perfect sense," I know that evil has tried to tempt me.
When I begin to fear, falter, and waver from the peace and joy He gives, I know that evil is waging war. I see the hurting, lost, masses without HOPE, and I know that evil has seduced them.
I see others focused on the enemy and all of his ways, and I know that evil has won that skirmish. Whenever I take my eyes off of Jesus, I smell the sulfur and know the wicked one laughs.
Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls. For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.
Matthew 11:28-30
When I become heavy laden, without rest, uneasy in my yoke and heavy laden, I know that I have taken on that which is not of Christ.
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October 28, 2006, 10:16:22 PM »
Quote from: SC lady on October 28, 2006, 06:47:49 AM
For me, evil often looks like a "reasonable" suggestion, an "understandable" decision. Each time I am tempted to step outside of faith in Jesus Christ for something that "makes perfect sense," I know that evil has tried to tempt me.
When I begin to fear, falter, and waver from the peace and joy He gives, I know that evil is waging war. I see the hurting, lost, masses without HOPE, and I know that evil has seduced them.
I see others focused on the enemy and all of his ways, and I know that evil has won that skirmish. Whenever I take my eyes off of Jesus, I smell the sulfur and know the wicked one laughs.
Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls. For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.
Matthew 11:28-30
When I become heavy laden, without rest, uneasy in my yoke and heavy laden, I know that I have taken on that which is not of Christ.
I so agree with you SC. I have a really good friend who looks for the evil in so much that she is continually advising me to boycott this place, product, person, organization due to their ties to evil and I never really know how to respond. Thanks so much for a perfect response. Her husband believes that the devil consecrates what he chooses for his purposes??
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bigpoppa
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Re: Recognizing Evil
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October 29, 2006, 02:43:15 PM »
It is one thing to look for the devil under every rock and it is another when demon possessed people come knocking on your door. The season of about 4 years where I was constantly in contact with the demonic and my eyes were being opened I am thankful for. As for now it seems to be over. Either way, I stand strong in Christ, knowing who I am and the power that I have through Him.
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Re: Recognizing Evil
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October 29, 2006, 07:42:17 PM »
Quote from: free.from.sin. on October 29, 2006, 02:43:15 PM
It is one thing to look for the devil under every rock and it is another when demon possessed people come knocking on your door. The season of about 4 years where I was constantly in contact with the demonic and my eyes were being opened I am thankful for. As for now it seems to be over. Either way, I stand strong in Christ, knowing who I am and the power that I have through Him.
I'd like to ask you a question....I hope it is okay. My husband is okay with it. I have many friends who truly believe that you need to go through all the hurts in your life and anything evil that has touched your life and receive some form of 'healing' or you will have given Satan a stronghold in your life. I believe that, as you say, we have power through Christ when we believe and after that Satan has no place other than what we give him. For example, I have not found any Scripture that states that because I VERY briefly thought of abortion when I got pregnant before marriage (was not saved, but did marry the dad and it all turned out well), my daughter will have to 'heal' that hurt due to my evil thoughts or it will negatively manifest itself in her life. She has no idea of any of this, BTW. I have a hard time believing that a statue of whatever false god can bring any evil into a good Christian home, unless they begin to worship or fear it. Is my thinking right on this or way off base? Maybe this is a little off topic - sorry.
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Re: Recognizing Evil
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Quote from: mxmom on October 29, 2006, 07:42:17 PM
... Satan has no place other than what we give him. For example, I have not found any Scripture that states that because I VERY briefly thought of abortion when I got pregnant before marriage (was not saved, but did marry the dad and it all turned out well), my daughter will have to 'heal' that hurt due to my evil thoughts or it will negatively manifest itself in her life. She has no idea of any of this, BTW. I have a hard time believing that a statue of whatever false god can bring any evil into a good Christian home, unless they begin to worship or fear it. Is my thinking right on this or way off base? Maybe this is a little off topic - sorry.
Satan has no place other than what we give him. I don't believe that a born again Christian can pass any sins to their children because all a born again Christians sins have been paid for and put away. You died with Christ and your history along with it. I do not believe in any kind of 'generational curses'. There is no Scripture to back that up.
I would not have a false god statue in my home because I believe that that statue/false god represents a demonic force and opens a door for that particular demon to enter your home and try to disrupt you. They cannot take away your salvation but they may be able to hurt your children. I have seen that before. Better to be safe than sorry.
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Re: Recognizing Evil
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October 30, 2006, 04:45:59 PM »
Thanks for the reply - I really appreciate it. I agree, I simply don't see anything in Scripture that would make me believe in 'generational curses'. Never thought about allowing a crack whereby evil can slip in to get my kids - will have to read and pray on this (we do not have any such things in our house, except, perhaps on the CD covers my husband buys, and I really cannot interfere with that other than through prayer). Actually, though, I think I remember an article by Michael Pearl in which he discusses this concerning porn. Thanks again!!
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Re: Recognizing Evil
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Quote from: free.from.sin. on October 30, 2006, 04:31:42 PM
Satan has no place other than what we give him. I don't believe that a born again Christian can pass any sins to their children because all a born again Christians sins have been paid for and put away. You died with Christ and your history along with it. I do not believe in any kind of 'generational curses'. There is no Scripture to back that up.
Very well said, free from sin.
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Re: Recognizing Evil
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November 17, 2006, 05:29:18 PM »
free from sin- it is very interresting to me that you admit to having had the ability to see demons.
I notice when ppl have this ability they don't tell their fellow Christians for fear of being mistakenly labled a sooth sayer or someting like that.
I'm glad you are telling your story.
I'm age 35 now. as a child i saw demons, smelt them and felt them very strongly. it was a paralyzing fear that made me freeze in my tracks. as a teen i had the strong urge to see and hear about evil things like demonic types of movies and books and so forth. no one can understand its intense fear unless they have felt and saw it.
I finally told my mom about it. she taught me how to pray in the name of Jesus to make those smelly things go away. and yes some really do smell.
IN the name of JESUS always helps me. Once i do that the fear and sights go away. I prayed when I was in my 20s to not be able to see feel or smell demons anymore because the fear was more then i could take. so i no longer see them that i know of. other then an occasional glimpse of something which causes me to pray right away.
sometimes i feel them but not as mush as i used to because i pray right away for them to go away. they used to invade my dreams alot. now i have learned to say " in the name of JESUS leave me alone " in my dreams and it works. the nightmarish demonic dreams have decreased alot.
I noticed you said you saw them as animals type creatures. I saw them as shadow looking shapes in a variety of shapes and so forth.
i also worked with the mentally retarded for a 7 years. i noticed the same types of actions in them that you mentioned. but a lot of times it was a black out seizure making them flip out not a demon.
SO WHAT I WANT TO KNOW IS WAS IT WRONG FOR ME TO ASK GOD TO TAKE THE ABILITY TO SEE THE DEMONS AWAY? BECAUSE MAYBE I WAS MEANT TO SEE THEM SO I COULD DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT AND PRAY OVER PPL?
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November 19, 2006, 12:17:00 PM »
It would seem the very best thing to do, BJBobbiJo. We are told to fill our minds with praise and think on things that are lovely, true, good, etc. Demons do not qualify
Quote from: BJ_BOBBI_JO on November 17, 2006, 05:29:18 PM
WAS IT WRONG FOR ME TO ASK GOD TO TAKE THE ABILITY TO SEE THE DEMONS AWAY?
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November 19, 2006, 07:28:11 PM »
Yes, but realizing that there is a demonic realm at work, attacking people, doing horrible things to people AND THEN realizing that in the name of Jesus we have all power and authority over them is an incredibly lovely truth that brings glory to Jesus.
I think it is good to know what the deal is.
And bj bobbi jo, I have also seen them as shadowy figures and yes, they do smell very bad!
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Re: Recognizing Evil
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February 06, 2007, 02:10:11 PM »
I noticed earlier that someone commented on thinking the Holy Spirit would let a believer know about a demonic presence to protect that believer. I personally would think the Holy Spirit would make you aware so you could do something about it. You are already protected because you have the Holy Spirit, right? Jesus gave His disciples power to cast them out, not power to know who to avoid contact with, right? Just a thought. I've seen whole churches ignore a demon possessed person, and it seems like a misuse of authority to me.
That's my two cents.
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February 06, 2007, 03:49:49 PM »
I hope this isn't totally ignorant and maybe it should be in a different thread but can a Christian be demon possessed?? I know that as a Christian I have overcome sin and any sin I commit I have invited into my life, but are we talking straight out demon possession or just struggling to overcome sin?
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Re: Recognizing Evil
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February 06, 2007, 07:11:00 PM »
Wow. Ok, so how do you know the difference between sin and being possessed by a demon? Or is all sin some sort of demon possession?
Say a person has a problem with anger. They get angry and yell. Their parents did it to them growing up and now they do it to their kids. Is this a sin issue, meaning giving it to God and not letting it get control of you, or a demonic possession issue? Like actually being possessed by a demon of anger? (Gee, wonder who we're talking about??
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And say it is a demon, does someone have to pray over you? Or can you claim to blood of Jesus over your own life and have them flee??
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February 06, 2007, 08:26:13 PM »
The Bible is pretty clear that when a Christian sins, or has an ongoing problem with a particular sin, the problem is his/her own flesh, not a demon.
Jas 1:14 But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.
Jas 1:15 Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.
Temptation to sin comes from our own lust drawing us away, and enticing us. Yes, we are dead to sin, free from sin, victorious over sin, however one chooses to verbalize it. But, you will still sin if you do not live in that freedom.
1Jo 2:15 Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.
1Jo 2:16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.
Again, it is our love of the world, our lust of the flesh, our pride of life (there's the root of your anger problem) that leads us into sin. Not some demon.
If you read Romans 1, the entire chapter, you will find the Apostle Paul tracing the path of sin in a person's life, from the point of not Glorifying God and being unthankful all the way down to the point of sodomy and unmentionable depravity. Nowhere is a demon mentioned, but man's will to follow his own path deliberately, ignoring the will and command of God. The truth is, man does not need outside influence to cause him to sin. you can not say that Adam or Eve either one was
posessed
, just given an opportunity.
As for the question about Christians being possessed by demons, I have not read the book mentioned by Logan, but I will tell you this. There was NEVER a saint in the Bible mentioned as having suffered from demon posession, but so many passages are telling us that light and dark can not dwell together. I have been bought with a price. I am not my own, the Holy Spirit of the Most High God posesses me. And He don't share.
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Re: Recognizing Evil
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Thanks 73sharps. I think the dictionary also just helped me answer this question as well. Possession is ownership. Satan does not own me. Christ does so therefore as a Christian I cannot be demon possessed (owned). Besides, if a demon flees in terror at the mention of Jesus' name, then there is no way they could inhabit the body of the Temple of Christ.
What got me really confused is that a Christian youth home that dh occasionally helps out with had a few kids there that were demon possessed. When they went to youth group, they got nose bleeds and start freaking out when the singing started. They were taken in another room and prayed over but a week later, the lady who ran the youth home called my dh in a panic to come over and help (he is a police officer and her hubby was out of town). Turns out one of the girls was taking a nap and when she woke up she had blood all over her and on the wall was written "I'm still here" in her blood (blood came from another nosebleed). She started screaming and freaking out which, of course, freaked everyone else out.
Anyway, both of these kids claimed to be Christians but I guess as they couldn't handle hearing the name of Jesus spoken without getting a severe nosebleed, then one would have to question their conversion.
I know that my anger is definitely something I allow into my life. When my boys are well trained, I am at total peace. It is when I get lazy and stop training that I let the anger get it's foothold. Isn't it just like Satan to use something that tore me down as a child to try to tear down my own children?
Thank you all for the insight and scripture references - and motivation to claim victory over this sin!
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I wasnt sure where to put this, but it is definitely evil, so I thought this thread would do. I saw a truck while driving on the highway the other day with pictures of aborted babies on it. It had a web site listed: abortionno.org
I briefly checked out the website, but am sickened by the photos now and just had to share it wtih anyone wanting to know more. Anyone considering abortion should see these pictures. Dr's who do this are definitely evil.
On the topic of demon possesion, ray comfort has a link on his web site to some radio show where a demon possesed girl called in. It is really freaky. Dont go looking to listen to it unless you are prepared.
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June 24, 2007, 04:55:32 PM »
I've had some experiences with demon's during my growing up years. I've never personally seen one, but I've seen and heard what they can do. I'd love to hear some opinions on this too.... do you think a house can be possessed? Like a "haunted house" so to speak... that sort of thing. It would seem that this was the case with the house I grew up in. I've got lots of scary stories from my childhood in that house, some happening to me, some happening to my brother and parents. It would seem they (the demons?) simply wanted to frighten me as a child. They would make strange shadows on the walls when I was try to fall asleep. These were shadows that could not have been caused by anything else, and promptly went away when I would call for my Dad, who would rebuke them in the name of Jesus.
Also, on the subject of a believer being possessed. This is something I struggled with for a long time. My mother was a Christian and got cancer and eventually died from it. During the course of the cancer she wound up being extremely doped up on morphine and such in order to help with the pain. My mother had plenty of issues with bitterness and such, which don't need to be gone into here, but basically, a, or possibly more, demon(s) began manifesting itself in her at the end of her life. I didn't get, or rather was sheltered from, seeing much of any of it. But, I do know my Dad and a pastor friend of his spoke with it and spent a fairly significant time trying to cast it out. I don't think they were ever successful, which totally confuses me... But, my point is, for years I didn't understand how she could possibly be possessed. But, I believe God finally revealed it to me a few years ago. The medicine she was taking so altered her from her "right" mind that I think a demon(s) was able to take some control and speak through her. I believe these demons may have been pestering her for a while, perhaps years, beforehand but were never able to touch her until she was not in control of her own mind.
I'd love to hear what you guys think of this, and if it makes sense. It kind of gave me a peace and set my mind at ease... anyway
As for you guys who have seen/smelled demons, WOW! That's amazing. God must have done it for a purpose. I applaud you for making it through that. I realize we have nothing to fear from them because Jesus has won the victory, but we often do fear what we don't understand, not the least of which is the spiritual realm. It's very interesting to hear what some of the ones you've seen look like! I've often wondered, but would much rather hear it from you than see for myself
I've also seen someone at a nursing home that I believe was possessed. Goodnight she would say the scariest things and then drop her head and come up talking like a little child etc. I steered myself a wide path around her (I was only 16-17 at the time). I've also had a sense of certain areas or business' that gave me that creepy "somethings wrong here" feeling... again the wide path
Anymore information you guys want to share on your experiences would be wonderful. This subject is fascinating to me!
Oh, and sorry about the novel
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Quote from: nexis777 on June 24, 2007, 04:55:32 PM
a, or possibly more, demon(s) began manifesting itself in her at the end of her life. I didn't get, or rather was sheltered from, seeing much of any of it. But, I do know my Dad and a pastor friend of his spoke with it and spent a fairly significant time trying to cast it out. I don't think they were ever successful, which totally confuses me...
Well, if you believe that God revealed the answer to you , then you should probably stick with that. But are you sure she was really possessed? I have watched two people die, rather slowly, and on morphine. You really do some off the wall things on morphine. Are you sure it wasn't just the drugs?
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Re: Recognizing Evil
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I saw her do some off the wall things on the morphine, like talk about little cars driving around on the carpet etc... lol. But, the things I'm referring to, like I say, my Dad and Pastor were there speaking to something that was speaking through her vocal cords that was not her voice, saying things that she would never have said. I mostly know only what my Dad told me (years later), though some deep part of my brain remembers hearing yelling and such as I was cowering in my bedroom at the opposite end of the house while they tried to rebuke it. I remember my Dad saying it spoke through my Mom saying they could not cast it out because it would just go back to another room in the house where it had been living for years etc etc.
The only time I saw it was on the night she died. I was in there with my Dad, saying goodnight to her. I should preface this by saying she had a lifetime addiction to smoking... hence the cancer (not to mention the bitterness). So, she'd just smoked a cigarrette (sp?) and looked at my Dad in desperation asking for another. He said, no, no more, you've had enough today. At that point her whole face and countenance changed and she tried to grab onto his arm with her pathetically weak hands BEGGING for another. I swear it was not her. I remember what a horrible sight that was to me as a 13 year old girl. I recognized it as not being my own mother.... if I remember right it didn't even sound like her.
Sooooo, I don't believe it was just the morphine.
And, thanks for the encouragement about what I felt like God showed me. You're right. I did feel kind of weird even asking what others thought, for that same reason. I guess I just wondered if anyone else had ever considered the same thought.
Thanks for the response
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Quote from: nexis777 on June 24, 2007, 06:27:45 PM
I saw her do some off the wall things on the morphine, like talk about little cars driving around on the carpet etc... lol. But, the things I'm referring to, like I say, my Dad and Pastor were there speaking to something that was speaking through her vocal cords that was not her voice,
This part is very normal and common for people dying, whether on morphine or not. I watched my grandmother pet animals that were not there and talk to people that had already passed. Even two generations before. Also, the voice she spoke was not like hers. Scientifically it is when the lungs start to fill up with fluid and you get what is called the "death rattle". Her voice was very deep and almost guttural(is that a word).
As for the voice talking back about not being able to be cast out, that is odd. Can't help you with that one.
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