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[BJ_BOBBI_JO]

I wasnt sure where to put this, but it is definitely evil, so I thought this thread would do.  I saw a truck while driving on the highway the other day with pictures of aborted babies on it.  It had a web site listed:  abortionno.org
I briefly checked out the website, but am sickened by the photos now and just had to share it wtih anyone wanting to know more.  Anyone considering abortion should see these pictures.  Dr's who do this are definitely evil.

On the topic of demon possesion, ray comfort has a link on his web site to some radio show where a demon possesed girl called in.  It is really freaky.  Dont go looking to listen to it unless you are prepared.

Oh my that relay does show how evil abortion is. Oh how awful to see those baby parts. I also think any medical staff doing that to a baby must be evil to the core. Especially after they see the parts. How can they actually think that is OK? Gives me the shutters and creeps. UG. I have saw surgeries and saw body parts but seeing abortion videos and pictures always make me feel uneasy  and repulsed. It so sad, those poor babies.
Those poor babies. I wonder what they would have grown up to be like?

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I cant remember if I already put this link on a thread or not but this is a link to a now Christian man telling of his 23 minute long experience in hell. He describes the demons and hell and so on. It may sound unbelievable to those who don't believe that evil is really out there but it really is! Just because something is differant  then what we ourselves have ever saw, heard or been in does not mean it is not true.
Click on either the LOW MEDIUM or HIGH on the left side of screen so you can watch/hear the video. It is interresting to hear this man tell about it.

http://www.spiritlessons.com/Documents/BillWiese_23MinutesInHell_Text.htm

[Wing]

This one is just for you nexis!  I read at least one post where someone else described this incident (I believe on "spiritual discernment") so I hope I will not sound (as) crazy.  I was not feeling well one day and laying in my bed.  It was just my sister and me in the house (I was 16 and saved by the way).  Suddenly I was being pushed into my bed by an extraordinary heavy force to the point where my body was slightly below the level of the mattress (like I was making an imprint).  I didn't know what was going on- I tried to move my head up to see what was on me but my whole body was under this awful weight I wasn't sure if I could even breathe.  I knew I needed help and I couldn't speak,  I was trying to call for my sister so she could help me.  On my nightstand was my alarm clock and I thought if I can grab the cord to the clock I can swing it against the wall and my sister will hear the crash.  But my arms wouldn't move and the weight kept crushing down on me.  Finally "the thing" let me push my own head up which took all the strength in my being, to get a look at what was pushing my body down.  Here is what it looked like:

Facial expression- mocking, laughing at me (although made no sound)
Big orange transparent head with huge solid black eyes, similar to the shape of head and eyes that I've seen in many "alien" depictions (please don't think I am a lunatic yet!)
No nose, just jagged solid black mocking mouth
Orange transparent body, couldn't distinguish body parts,  just "flowing" orange arms like what  a thin sheet in water would look like
And "it"  was obviously very delighted that I saw it and was horrified by it
Overall, looked more like a 3-D cartoon  than a human body, as the face did not have actual features other than the plain eyes and mouth.  I am actually being serious when I say this! It was very similar to what it looks like when people put a sheet over their head and cut out eye holes and a mouth hole and go trick or treating as a "ghost".

I was finally able to pry my jaw apart to say something (again, required incredible strength) and cried "Jesus!"
At that, the thing was gone and I sat up.  I did not lay down again for fear it would get back on me.  I went to sit with my sister the rest of the day.

[Monita]

For me, evil often looks like a "reasonable" suggestion, an "understandable" decision. Each time I am tempted to step outside of faith in Jesus Christ for something that "makes perfect sense," I know that evil has tried to tempt me.

When I begin to fear, falter, and waver from the peace and joy He gives, I know that evil is waging war. I see the hurting, lost, masses without HOPE, and I know that evil has seduced them.

I see others focused on the enemy and all of his ways, and I know that evil has won that skirmish. Whenever I take my eyes off of Jesus, I smell the sulfur and know the wicked one laughs.

Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls. For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light. Matthew 11:28-30

When I become heavy laden, without rest, uneasy in my yoke and heavy laden, I know that I have taken on that which is not of Christ.

SC this is such an edifying post that I just wanted you to know that I have even printed it out so that  I could memorize the scripture and that I could have the post as a reminder.    

Love,
Mona

[bigpoppa]

To all those people questioning whether a believer can be possessed by a demon: ABSOLUTELY NOT!

Think about who you are for a second, if you are a born again believer. You are literally a part of the body of Jesus Christ. You are filled with the Holy Spirit. You have been baptised into Christ. You are seated with Him in heavenly places. You are a born again, Spirit filled, blood bought child of God. You have been transferred from the kingdom of darkness into the kingdom of light. You are dead and your life is hid with Christ in God and in Him is no darkness. You are in fellowship with Christ and have nothing in common with the unfruitful works of darkness.

If there is ever a person who is truly possessed and says they are a believer, they are lying. That is the only conclusion I can come to. All the things that 'deliverance' is supposed to do for a believer (help you overcome your anger, lust, hatred, etc) Christ did for you on the cross when He killed you and raised you again a new creature.

[txseawater]

Testimony: When I was a very young girl I was aware of evil, and had an experience of seeing red, lightning fast, streaming ribbon-like something, and it was moving among a group of neighborhood kids after one girl was performing a seance to her recently deceased grandmother. The children (myself included - and I was one of the youngest 3 or 4?) were clambering down in absolute terror and fear from the announcers box atop the local high school football stadium. Once I was finally helped out of the hatch we had all climbed in from, I was observing this red swirl flying all around the children who were all spread out running down through the bleachers. Obviously, I was a little follower in the gang, and did not know until the action began what was really taking place. I never followed that older girl again because I knew that she had invited the Devil among us that day.
Twilight zone was in popularity at the time, and my older brother loved to watch it. I saw enough episodes to become fearful. I too experienced the fast running shadow images, and cold fear for many years, and never liked dolls at all. I was afraid of the dark and my bedcovers protected me. I would never place a hand or foot near under my bed.  I would see things in the dark and run as fast as I could to flip on the light and run back under my covers. 
When I was 10 yrs old I was completely understanding salvation and walked down the aisle of a little country Baptist church to the song "Turn Your Eyes Upon Jesus" sung by a young couple playing guitars. I still saw images, however,  and began to hear more about clairvoyance. I was then also seeing transparent whisps of life size figures as if  passing through windows and walls. Fear would visit me often,  and I began to hear teaching on using the Name of JESUS to rebuke the Devil. When I was 12 I was radically touched by The Holy Spirit without any coaching from anyone or teaching on it and I have never been the same since! But I still struggled with visits from Fear long after that and I would ALWAYS rebuke it in Jesus Name.  The last time I remember dealing with Fear was after my first child was born and he was having nightmares and saying that someone was outside his window. I rebuked it with all the WORD I could recall to mind that night and I felt it leave.  My son never had Fear again. I thought to myself at that time 18 yrs ago, "Satan must get tired of having to be rebuked after a while and finally leave you alone since he knows what he will get from you." JESUS everytime!
My husband and I both sensed an evil presence in our honeymoon cabin which belonged to a seminary professor and found many sources which we one by one threw into a woodpile outside of the cabin - since these posessions (literally) didn't belong to us. We also both sensed an evil presence one night after falling asleep while I was pregnant with #3 that woke us both up and we both located it's larger dark shadow to the exact same place in our room. Husband of course rebuked it and pleaded Jesus blood over our home and our family. It left. We did not fear with that one and we fell back to sleep.
I want to express some things that have come as the most freeing TRUTH! When depression had hit me for a season, a spirit of heaviness came upon me. I had been internalizing  many things and feeling like there must be some problem with me. It grew so heavy that it did feel as if my chest were caving in as I sobbed on my bed. This lasted a very long time.  When I finally got up, I thought I would check on a young girl friend online. She was also depressed, and so I typed out the WORD "Put on the garment of  praise for the SPIRIT OF HEAVINESS" ...She was reminded to play her favorite worship music and I was left reading the LIVING WORD I had just typed out!  It wasn't me! It wasn't a problem I had! It was an external ugly spirit pressing upon me opressing me ! I UNDERSTOOD! I began to worship and praise all that day out loud! and realizing all the while It is a lying spirit! Satan lies!  Jesus said "It IS FINISHED!!" Jesus has taken the keys of hell and death away from Satan! It is already accomplished, and so all that Satan can do is lie. And that he does with great skill! He knows how to lie to us in such a way as we believe the lies. His only power is in his ability to lie to us in such a way as we believe the lies. But see,  Jesus said "BELIEVE IN ME!!!" What does God say about our situations and our feelings and how He sees us through His Word? Go to it, read it, and BELIEVE that! Stop listening to the enemy! Learn to recognize the enemy! Jesus said "My sheep hear my voice and the voice of the stranger you will not follow"
I have also just this last week-end come to a new lesson in warfare. I posted in "Please Pray"
concerning deep hurts. It is very much along the same lines. Jesus purchased us and if we have invited Him into our lives, then The Holy Spirit dwells in us and there is no room in His temple for any other spirits. We may hurt and suffer and the pain may be caused by direct evil schemes plotted against us to create deep hurts where he can then send his demons to attach if we ALLOW - but WE MUST NOT ALLOW. We must not agree with evil spirits. We must agree with The WORD! We must OBEY The WORD of GOD and die to self and our flesh and our own will. "Jesus learned obedience through the things that He suffered." We must LET JESUS BE ALIVE IN US! FILLING US! Quickening us where we have died inside in love or hope. Because Jesus is our only hope! His love never fails! His mercies are new every morning! He has conquered, and has already borne our hurt. Satan must be very jealous over that. We must be aware of Satan's tactics and throw ourselves on The Lord Jesus. We must cling to the cross as we die daily, and understand more fully each day that we are also risen in Him, and His LIFE embodies us.  We decrease and He increases!  People need to hear this and be SET FREE! "For whom the Son has set free is free indeed!"       
 
                     

[BJ_BOBBI_JO]

When we hear of demonic oppression and possessions it seems we see or hear ppl foaming at the mouth, cussing, being perverts and acting violent. But IMO here in America it is so often portrayed as something less sutle and something that is harder to recognize.  Such as things we think is mild like non chemical addictions, complete spiritual blinderness and stupidity,  doing the same old destructive lusts over and over even after knowing it is wrong, angry for no to little reason all the time, insecure, depressed, partaking in things that are harmful to others like rumors and so on. Procrastination, constant illness, a lot of small troubles. The list goes on and on. All which can make a person not seek out God because all their issues are making them focus more on themselves and their issues. I am not saying every problem is caused by demons. I know that problems just happen in life but I also think sometimes it may be caused by evil forces more then we realize. Any thoughts on that last sentance?


Maybe demonic possession isn't the right word in those cases but sometimes it sure does seem to be caused or has something to do with demonic something or other.

I will give an example and perhaps yall can tell me if this family is demonically oppressed or demonically possessed.

The family starts with the old man in his 70s. He cheats on all of his many wives and goes from one woman to the other sleeping around and is always in dept and down and out. A nice man tho and very friendly. He knows about God and says he has Jesus in his life. Don't see no evidence of that.

His daughter who is in her 50s now knows about Jesus and respects Him. She thinks she cant go to heaven or be saved because she is to bad. She cries at the thought of it and has no hope. No joy. She repeatably has given in to sexual perversion and lusts like her dad did. She knows it is dangerous but keeps doing it. She chooses rotton husbands that are molesters and wife beaters. She comments adultery like her dad did and she knows it is wrong and feels bad for it but keeps doing it. She lives with intense anger, depression and cries real easy. She is easily hurt and goes from being real nice and gentle to off the wall mad and screaming within seconds. Flys off the handle and rips peoples hearts out with her words. And then she is nice and smiling again the next time they see her. She screams out God/Jesus name in vein during her  anger fits sometimes. Gets angry easily. But she knows when and where to have these fits and to whom she can have them with. Her words of rage bring her family down and hurt them. They all start fighting.  Extreme procrastination.

She has 3 children. They have all been molested by various non family members over their growing up years. The mother ( the above lady in her 50s) just let them kind of raise themselves and do as they wanted. Unsupervized internet access, boys and girls staying the night and so on. They messed around with weedje boards and other occultic things. They done drugs and slept around. They were raised going to church with their grandparents and know Jesus and say they believe in Him. They know right from wrong but can not stop doing wrong even tho they want to stop it so bad. They waller in fornication, drinking, anger, unforgiveness, depression, poor health, poverty, heart breaks and fits of rage sometimes. They know no  to little shame and are out spoken about their sex lives and perversions sometimes. To them it seems normal. But they get convicted by Christians sometimes but cant stop doing what they do. They persist in their filth. Their fits of rage make no since sometimes and then they suddenly go back to normal. Extreme procrastination in them all. They all know right from wrong but cant stop doing wrong.


My dad once said that the above family have a demon with them. He gave no reason but just knew it. The above mother and all her 3 kids  and the house they all still live in often times brings about a since of dread, depression and other negitive feelings. Just being in their house sometimes causes me to get angry, depressed and so on for no reason. When they are around others the ppl around them will often times suddenly get upset, angry, depressed, argumentive and so on. The family doesnt even have to cause the troubles. They can be acting nice and friendly but for some reason those around them are getting all worked up and angry and so on. Could that possibly be because that family has a demon attached to it? Can demons be attached to families, homes and objects like that?.  Many times that family is very giving and helpful to others. And very kind and they mean it, truly I think they do. But then they so often go into anger flip out stage for no to little reason in their house. It is weird.

Does that sound like they could have demonic activity contributing to their actions?

Does what I said about not all demonically possessed ppl being raging foaming violent freaks sound on track or not?

Or could it just be emotional/mental unhealthiness passed from one generation to the next?

How can we tell  if it is demonicly caused or just because of mental or emotionall issues?

What are some other sneaky ways and 'quiet' ways demonic possession can show itself?



I don't mean to say those things are always caused by demons. Those are sins that ppl choose to do on their own. But sometimes it seems some ppl are lost in them and take them to the extreme and cant stop. Like they cant see the truth even tho it is right smack in their face. They cant stop doing what they are doing no matter how hard they wish to.

[txseawater]

Do these people drink diet coke and eat little debbies snacks? 

Seriously, some other reasons can be the cause of such behaviors. Such as the foods they eat and their health in terms of brain chemicals. They could all simply be lacking in self control which is a fruit of The Holy Spirit, so perhaps they need to be filled with The Holy Spirit and some of those good fruits. Perhaps their diet is not real healthy spiritually. Like: What you feed grows, so if you feed the flesh, it will grow. People can become so comfortable with their demons. They enjoy them. They keep them company because they agree with them. They are not agreeing with the right person! Their behavior is their own personal right, because they are not understanding The Lordship of Christ in their life. The victory that Jesus already won on our behalf only comes through when we realize that we are not our own, and that we were bought with a price - the precious blood of THE LIVING LAMB of GOD WHO TAKES AWAY THE SINS OF THE WORLD. Guilt comes with dis-obedience. Jesus said, "who is my brother, sister, mother?... those who OBEY MY COMMANDMENTS. Who in the 'kingdom of self' can truly serve The King of Kings? His name is above any name that can be named - including "chemical imbalance". I think "generational sins" were taken care of on the cross when Jesus said "IT IS FINISHED!" BJ, if you recognize evil - call a spade a spade. Speak boldly if that is what The Holy Spirit is calling you to do. If the influence of 'something' is there and you feel that there are deaf ears and blind eyes, and you yourself become vulnerable to 'something' that seems to be there, then "Go not with an angry man." There are things that The Lord hates. Look it up! Why should we be tolerant? Joyful, peaceful, patient and gentle, good and kind, loving and long suffering yes, but not tolerant.

I have the same question...how can a "Christian" go through life year after year, and show zero signs of change or evidence of The Holy Spirit in their lives? Or maybe they have a problem in their neck. It's gotten stiff. It might just be because they are, in fact, NOT saved or redeemed. Not Holy Spirit filled.  Spirit filled maybe - but which spirit is it? And to name one of them is to name a bunch of them. Demons run together. It's as serious as a heart attack. The only power that satan has is in his ability to lie to people in such a way as they believe the lies. But Jesus said, "Believe in me!"

Satan does not have to openly possess us - all he's got to do is DISTRACT us.  "Thou will keep him in perfect peace whose mind is stayed on Thee."           

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